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28 Dec 2007, 12:54 pm

Irulan wrote:
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With irulan, for example, I think her level of ability for languages(HEY, she OBVIOUSLY does well, but I think someone with a REALLY eidetic memory could learn more faster and easier) indicates she isn't THAT good.


But I don't claim I'm a person with this kind of memory. I even read in that topic started by me:
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I don't have an eidetic memory but a memory is something what each person can get trained. I've read that photographic memory happens to about 8% of children at the age of 7-12 but only 0,1% of adults can boast of having it. But this kind of memory in some cases can become a veritable obstacle like in case of Solomon Shereshevskii who also experienced an extremely strong synesthesia - he remembered EVERYTHING what was often a source of problems for him and he ended up in an asylum.


Oh, I wasn't saying anything against you, or saying you lied. WOW, that must not have been one of my better days. I guess I was looking for someone. on this forum, that spoke well, yet still had some consistent differences.



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28 Dec 2007, 1:16 pm

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Oh, I wasn't saying anything against you, or saying you lied. WOW, that must not have been one of my better days. I guess I was looking for someone. on this forum, that spoke well, yet still had some consistent differences.


But I don't say you have said something bad or malicious :) It was only an information :lol: . Anyway, if you learn a language but you don't have an occasion to practice it in a country whose inhabitants speak this language there's no possibility to acquire that language really well.



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28 Dec 2007, 1:18 pm

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You mean you NEVER basically speak mentally? MOST people reading books DO do this. Anyway, THAT is what my verbal memory is like.
I WISH I could really SEE what you guys are talking about, but I may never see it.


When I talk I see the picture of what I want to say. If I talk about a pumpkin pie, I see it, smell it, it is all visual. Then I describe it or remember something about it. When I have a conversation with someone, what they say to me I run a movie through my head. When I respond, I run a movie through my head.

As far as reading, I suppose there has to be some element of verbal memory, or you couldn't read. However when I read, I view the story as a movie.

Hope that makes sense.


WOW! I'm going to have to see if I can start running movies like that in such cases. Usually I am a little too slow at that, but I guess it could be better with more practice. I DO sometimes see movies of things I am reminded of.

Oddly, I can even read GERMAN without thinking audibly. Even some HINDI!



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28 Dec 2007, 1:19 pm

busy91 wrote:
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You mean you NEVER basically speak mentally? MOST people reading books DO do this. Anyway, THAT is what my verbal memory is like.
I WISH I could really SEE what you guys are talking about, but I may never see it.


When I talk I see the picture of what I want to say. If I talk about a pumpkin pie, I see it, smell it, it is all visual. Then I describe it or remember something about it. When I have a conversation with someone, what they say to me I run a movie through my head. When I respond, I run a movie through my head.

As far as reading, I suppose there has to be some element of verbal memory, or you couldn't read. However when I read, I view the story as a movie.

Hope that makes sense.


It does makes sense :) In my case it looks the same - I especially like what you said about viewing a read story in form of a mental movie in your head - I have the same but I wasn't sure how to express it. You did it for me :D



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28 Dec 2007, 1:29 pm

Irulan wrote:
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Oh, I wasn't saying anything against you, or saying you lied. WOW, that must not have been one of my better days. I guess I was looking for someone. on this forum, that spoke well, yet still had some consistent differences.


But I don't say you have said something bad or malicious :) It was only an information :lol: . Anyway, if you learn a language but you don't have an occasion to practice it in a country whose inhabitants speak this language there's no possibility to acquire that language really well.


Don't get me wrong, you DO speak english well! Some people have been here for 30 years or more, and don't speak it that well. You pick some words sometimes that make one realize you are foreign. Then again, many HERE do, and I sometimes slip up.

Also, you pick some unusual words that ARE right, but too "big" to use in a lot of areas in the US. But HEY, I LIKE that! :D Maybe it is better you AREN'T influenced by the average American.

If you ever come here, you will probably end up sounding like a high class lady. I don't know how you pronounce words, but you seem to pick things up fast, and may watch some movies from hollywood, etc... So you may even SOUND native. THAT will be rare, as many here are sounding more and more foreign.



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28 Dec 2007, 2:09 pm

May you tell me some examples of such big words used by me which make me obvious foreigner? :D I even didn't know I use "big words" in excess :D I sound funny even in my own language because I tend to use really sophisticated vocabulary taken from novels I read. When I have caught a phrase I especially like I feel a compulsion to use it in an everyday conversation. Anyway, I have a strange feeling I have problems with using articles properly, too.



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28 Dec 2007, 11:39 pm

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May you tell me some examples of such big words used by me which make me obvious foreigner? :D I even didn't know I use "big words" in excess :D I sound funny even in my own language because I tend to use really sophisticated vocabulary taken from novels I read. When I have caught a phrase I especially like I feel a compulsion to use it in an everyday conversation. Anyway, I have a strange feeling I have problems with using articles properly, too.


Well, a number of people in the US speak of "big" words, and they mean ones that are rarely heard and can be replaced by more common words or phrases. They don't brand you as a foriegner, and simply make you look more intelligent if anything. One such word you recently used was "deciduous". I was surprised to even recently see it in an ad. Others may make you appear foreign, like "fecund". They aren't wrong though. Please don't change on my account.

BTW you DON'T use them in excess, it is just that some think it is pretentious. FORGET THAT!

You seem to KNOW about articles, but don't apply them consistantly:

the foreigner
foreigners
a foreigner(f isn't a vowel(a,e,i,o,u) sound)
an obvious foreigner(o is a vowel(a,e,i,o,u) sound)



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29 Dec 2007, 1:09 am

Everything I think about in my head is represented in visual, aural, kinesthetic and in smell/taste. So when I think of something specific, I hear what it sounds like, I remember the feel of it and I see and smell it. Plus, there's a scroll bar in my head that continuously types the words that I hear around me and internally, across the inside wall of my mental mind.

I'm also a synaesthete; which enables me to see numbers and letters in color.

I started doing the scroll bar thing when I was in the 2nd grade. At first it annoyed the piss out of me, because there was lag time from my brain spelling out the words. Now though, it's just a continuous process that I'm barely aware of.

Batman has a photographic memory also. :) Yet another one of my arguments for why he's an aspie.

BTW, if you haven't read this before, you all might be interested in this article:

I Think In Pictures. You Teach In Words.


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