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i am schiziod and aspie 
22 Dec 2007, 5:56 pm
22 Dec 2007, 6:10 pm
22 Dec 2007, 6:10 pm
zendell wrote:
I may not like your personality, but what right do I have to tell you it's disordered and needs to be fixed to conform to what I consider normal. Apparently, the people who write the ICD and DSM think they are special and have that right. If you felt you were that special, they'd say you were delusional.
Indeed.
Which is why I created Staff Personality Disorder.
Quote:
Staff Personality Disorder 601.83
A pervasive pattern of condescension, degradation of others, and controlling behavior beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Condescending or degrading use of body language, vocal inflection, and behavior.
2. Presentation of two or more markedly different personality styles based entirely on context.
3. Persistent protection of people in positions of power even if such people have done something unethical or illegal.
4. Employment in one of the "helping professions", or other situations in which a person has or can secure power over others.
5. Rigidity in application of rules and explanations to other people
6. Persistent or stereotyped use of euphemisms, jargon, deceptive language, and double standards in language
7. Persistent use of degradation, ridicule, and violence, either gratuitously or grossly out of proportion to the situation
A pervasive pattern of condescension, degradation of others, and controlling behavior beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Condescending or degrading use of body language, vocal inflection, and behavior.
2. Presentation of two or more markedly different personality styles based entirely on context.
3. Persistent protection of people in positions of power even if such people have done something unethical or illegal.
4. Employment in one of the "helping professions", or other situations in which a person has or can secure power over others.
5. Rigidity in application of rules and explanations to other people
6. Persistent or stereotyped use of euphemisms, jargon, deceptive language, and double standards in language
7. Persistent use of degradation, ridicule, and violence, either gratuitously or grossly out of proportion to the situation
And a guy I used to know, Jared Blackburn (who's the reason I tried coming up with my own) did Normal Personality Disorder:
Quote:
301.666 Normal Personality Disorder
Meets qualification for at least two of the following criteria:
A. Egocentrism (at least one of the following):
(1) Egocentric perspective (e.g. fails to realize that others may have a different perspective, needs, nature, or experiences from his or her self)
(2) Egomania (e.g. acts or talks as though better or more important than peers or others)
(3) Selfishness (either of both of the following)
(a) Marked greed or covetousness
(b) Domineering or "bossy" attitude
B. Lack of originality (at least one of the following):
(1) Rigidly follows traditions or social rituals
(2) Is often "faddish," follow the latest fads, fashions, or "crazes" invented or set by others
(3) Often demonstrates a "herd mentality" (e.g. thoughtlessly follows a social reference group or a local group of friends, often gives into "peer pressure")
C. Lack of Sympathy (one or both of the following):
(1) Cruel or callous towards the feeling of others (e.g. engages in teasing or ridiculing other, plays potentially harmful "practical jokes" on unsuspecting victims who are unlikely to be amused)
(2) Often Manipulative (e.g. uses others as tools to towards own goals, treats others as objects which may be acquired for own satisfaction, uses dishonesty as convenient way to achieve social goals)
Meets qualification for at least two of the following criteria:
A. Egocentrism (at least one of the following):
(1) Egocentric perspective (e.g. fails to realize that others may have a different perspective, needs, nature, or experiences from his or her self)
(2) Egomania (e.g. acts or talks as though better or more important than peers or others)
(3) Selfishness (either of both of the following)
(a) Marked greed or covetousness
(b) Domineering or "bossy" attitude
B. Lack of originality (at least one of the following):
(1) Rigidly follows traditions or social rituals
(2) Is often "faddish," follow the latest fads, fashions, or "crazes" invented or set by others
(3) Often demonstrates a "herd mentality" (e.g. thoughtlessly follows a social reference group or a local group of friends, often gives into "peer pressure")
C. Lack of Sympathy (one or both of the following):
(1) Cruel or callous towards the feeling of others (e.g. engages in teasing or ridiculing other, plays potentially harmful "practical jokes" on unsuspecting victims who are unlikely to be amused)
(2) Often Manipulative (e.g. uses others as tools to towards own goals, treats others as objects which may be acquired for own satisfaction, uses dishonesty as convenient way to achieve social goals)
Last edited by anbuend on 22 Dec 2007, 6:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
22 Dec 2007, 6:10 pm
zendell wrote:
These "disorders" are nothing more than labels that a bunch of people who think they're better than everyone else use to describe people who are different and unacceptable to them.
I may not like your personality, but what right do I have to tell you it's disordered and needs to be fixed to conform to what I consider normal. Apparently, the people who write the ICD and DSM think they are special and have that right. If you felt you were that special, they'd say you were delusional.
If you are different than them and they don't like it, you must have a disease and you should pay them to fix it. Bush wants to evaluate all school children for mental illness so they can get "appropriate" treatment (Big Pharma's drugs that make them $billions in profits). Psychiatry is all about money and power. It makes me sick.
I may not like your personality, but what right do I have to tell you it's disordered and needs to be fixed to conform to what I consider normal. Apparently, the people who write the ICD and DSM think they are special and have that right. If you felt you were that special, they'd say you were delusional.
If you are different than them and they don't like it, you must have a disease and you should pay them to fix it. Bush wants to evaluate all school children for mental illness so they can get "appropriate" treatment (Big Pharma's drugs that make them $billions in profits). Psychiatry is all about money and power. It makes me sick.
DING DING DING !
We have a winner.
Great post Zendell!
22 Dec 2007, 6:26 pm
22 Dec 2007, 6:26 pm
anbuend, I love your Staff Personality Disorder and like the Normal Personality Disorder that you posted also.
22 Dec 2007, 6:52 pm
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22 Dec 2007, 7:56 pm
Mw99 wrote:
I recently learned about Schizold Personality Disorder and it sounds an awful lot like Asperger's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_P ... y_Disorder
ICD-10 criteria
According to the ICD-10, schizoid personality disorder is characterized by at least four of the following criteria:
1.Emotional coldness, detachment or reduced affection. (NO)
2.Limited capacity to express either positive or negative emotions towards others. (YES)
3.Consistent preference for solitary activities. (YES)
4.Very few (if any) close friends or relationships, and a lack of desire for such. (NO) i desire it... not capable of it.
5.Indifference to either praise or criticism. (NO)
6.Taking pleasure in few, if any, activities. (YES)
7.Indifference to social norms and conventions. (YES)
8.Preoccupation with fantasy and introspection. (YES)
9.Lack of desire for sexual experiences with another person. (YES)
DSM-IV-TR criteria
The DSM-IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines schizoid personality disorder as:
A. A pervasive pattern of detachment from social relationships and a restricted range of expression of emotions in interpersonal settings, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
1.neither desires nor enjoys close relationships, including being part of a family (NO)
2.almost always chooses solitary activities (YES)
3.has little, if any, interest in having sexual experiences with another person (YES)
4.takes pleasure in few, if any, activities (YES)
5.lacks close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives (NO)
6.appears indifferent to the praise or criticism of others (NO)
7.shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affectivity (NO)
B. Does not occur exclusively during the course of schizophrenia, a mood disorder with psychotic features, another psychotic disorder, or a pervasive developmental disorder and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a general medical condition.
Unlike Asperger's Syndrome, SPD does not involve an impairment in nonverbal communication (e.g., lack of eye-contact or unusual prosody) or a pattern of restricted interests or repetitive behaviors (e.g., a strict adherence to routines or rituals, or an unusually intense interest in a single topic). Instead people with SPD are typically more indifferent with regard to their activities. However, in a sample of schizoid children, Sula Wolff noticed that "Having special interest patterns differentiated highly between schizoid and control boys." SPD does not affect the ability to express oneself or communicate effectively with others, and is not believed to be related to any form of autism.
ICD-10 criteria
According to the ICD-10, schizoid personality disorder is characterized by at least four of the following criteria:
1.Emotional coldness, detachment or reduced affection. (NO)
2.Limited capacity to express either positive or negative emotions towards others. (YES)
3.Consistent preference for solitary activities. (YES)
4.Very few (if any) close friends or relationships, and a lack of desire for such. (NO) i desire it... not capable of it.
5.Indifference to either praise or criticism. (NO)
6.Taking pleasure in few, if any, activities. (YES)
7.Indifference to social norms and conventions. (YES)
8.Preoccupation with fantasy and introspection. (YES)
9.Lack of desire for sexual experiences with another person. (YES)
DSM-IV-TR criteria
The DSM-IV-TR, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines schizoid personality disorder as:
A. A pervasive pattern of detachment from social relationships and a restricted range of expression of emotions in interpersonal settings, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
1.neither desires nor enjoys close relationships, including being part of a family (NO)
2.almost always chooses solitary activities (YES)
3.has little, if any, interest in having sexual experiences with another person (YES)
4.takes pleasure in few, if any, activities (YES)
5.lacks close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives (NO)
6.appears indifferent to the praise or criticism of others (NO)
7.shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affectivity (NO)
B. Does not occur exclusively during the course of schizophrenia, a mood disorder with psychotic features, another psychotic disorder, or a pervasive developmental disorder and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a general medical condition.
Unlike Asperger's Syndrome, SPD does not involve an impairment in nonverbal communication (e.g., lack of eye-contact or unusual prosody) or a pattern of restricted interests or repetitive behaviors (e.g., a strict adherence to routines or rituals, or an unusually intense interest in a single topic). Instead people with SPD are typically more indifferent with regard to their activities. However, in a sample of schizoid children, Sula Wolff noticed that "Having special interest patterns differentiated highly between schizoid and control boys." SPD does not affect the ability to express oneself or communicate effectively with others, and is not believed to be related to any form of autism.
and i also have very bad nonverbal thingy... i also have severely restricted interests... so i am NOT schizoid!
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