Neither Aspie Nor NT, but somewhere in between

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It now seems like NT no longer means someone who isn't on the spectrum. It now means someone who doesn't have a nuerological disorder or syndrome.


To be not considered NT you have to have:

Mental retardation
Schizophrenia
ADD/ADHD
Non verbal learning disorder

I can't think of anymore.



Is dyslexia considered not an NT either, I'm not sure. How about depression or Bipolar or any depression disorder? Are they not considered NT either.

And I'm sure brain damage wouldn't be considered NT. If the part of their brain is effected where we are so it gives them the same traits, then they're not NT. So maybe my boyfriend isn't an NT either. Brain damage can also cause MR too.

Wilco- not how the body wanted it to be? How do you know this 'Normal Nt' rubbish wasnt what the body wanted it to be? How precisly can you know that.

Spokane- well theres no such thing as normal. Also disabilities creates such a negative image do you not think. i wish that word wasnt used either.

EXACTLY!! ! this nt stuff is a load of rubbish.
my point exactly.

xx

Can you explain what you mean by "anything but." Looks like you didn't finish your sentence. Did you mean it sounds like they are more severe than they sound or NT but think they have AS.


And how is us thinking we're borderline a trap?

Makes me wonder just how much of the world population is actually "NT" in the sense of the word. It would be more precise to say "not on the autistic spectrum", "not schizophrenic" or "not whatever"...but that would probably be complicating things far more than necessary.

You cant know what is precise. nothing is normal. everything is normal.

(from wiki) Neurotypical (or NT) is a neologism used to describe people whose neurological development and state are consistent with what most people would perceive as normal in their ability to process linguistic information and social cues.

In a land where everyone is blind, a person who can see would be considered different.

In a land where nobody can speak, someone with a voice would be considered different.

We have asperger. we are different. different from people who have the down syndrome. different from people who have PDD, different from people who have something else. so how do you call someone that doesnt have anything? we dont call him normal, we call him neuro typical. NTs are the base. you can say NTs are nothing. but thats a bit mean to say isn't it?

but we can also just call them NAs. Non Autisms

I dont know how many. but neurological or not, almost everyone has something

silver- I Know. Life is complacated.

wilco- I do see you're point here, but whilst they might not have a label, most don't not have 'nothing' if you see what i mean. I dont know, i think perhaps i am complating myself here.

xx

Gives the word "normal" a somewhat shaky definition.

Yes, what about Phobias? or are they normal as well now?

I must not have Asperger's then, because I cannot find this test. Everyone else seems to know about it: is AS necessary to be able to find this test? I can find lots of other ones, but don't see a WP one. Anyone?

P.S. The first time I saw it, I figured NT meant the iNtuitive Thinker type from the MBTI:
http://look.net/success/NT
http://morriscat.50megs.com/type/nt.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBTI
and that people were saying NT was sorta like mild Asperger's. After all, if you read descriptions of the MBTI NT, it should sound familiar:
"Focus on possibilites and handle them with impersonal analysis. Thus they tend to become logical and ingenious and find scope for their abilities in theoretical and technical developments."

My AS score is between 26 and 29, which puts me in the borderline category. However, I do have significant characteristics of Asperger syndrome.

126 for aspie, 69 for NT. I'm geared towards the average rather than the exceptional...

That is hysterical, Toe, I don't know which "WP test" they are talking about either. I know rdos has an ever-evolving quiz that seems really good and the one linked from Wired is an old one. But specifically WP? I don't know.

In the WP test (if thats what its called) i scored 108 Aspie and 88 NT. It was on another thread for those who cant find it, but I cant remember which one. I read that an NT taking it ended up with something like 35 Aspie.

And for those who say there is no borderline, this is clearly a load of rubbish (sorry if that is offensive). There is a continuum for every disorder and personality trait and there are clearly going to be those who end up in the middle of it. I think that saying NT with Aspie traits or Aspie with NT traits is misleading. Everyone, except for extremes is going to have some combination - even NTs. I think though that only people who do realise they are different and have an Aspie-related problem are going to investigate this. And precisely because it does have a (usually) negative effect on life it could be considered as a disability, even if the traits are not very severe. Although I dont like to consider it a disability either - maybe a disability when dealing with NTs.

I find a lot of the questions dont fit me. For example, I stim but not in the classic ways, I have special interests (I call them obsessions) but they are not the classic intellectual interests that are always described, I like to socialise but only when it goes well (which is about 20% of the time), I love to be alone, but I think if it was a choice between alone and being with a close friend or family I would choose the latter - if it wasnt a close friend the former etc. I have to qualify a good 50% of the questions and decide the closest, which is why I end up with a lot of 'slightly' answers instead of definately one way or the other, leading to perhaps a lower score than I would get otherwise.

Hey Spokane Girl,

I've been told several times that I sound like an Australian at times too! Don't know why that is, but I have thought about visiting Australia and maybe I'd fit in better there... Someone else told me once that I looked like a British tourist... funny..

As far as borderline Asperger's.... I think it would either be Nonverbal Learning Disability or something kindof vague, like the term PDD--NOS -- which is somewhat of an umbrella term for someone that is on the spectrum but not specified?? i think?

I'm supposedly a run-of-the-mill "aspie" [who had a speech delay]. I had two psychologists at Attwood's tell me this, and they're right from their perspective.

Many family members of those with autistic children have many of the traits that are common amongst those with autism, many of which would be deemed as "borderline"; it doesn't affect them negatively like the individual who is diagnosed.