More: No link whatsoever between vaccines and autism

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Hmm... I was immunised (though my younger brother hasn't had a lot of his vaccines; my parents started researching it after I'd had it, he's quite a few years younger than me). I had rubella too... though I was born autistic and have, like a fine wine, only improved with time.

So there's no causation there, but proof that you can get it even with the vaccine... I had a pretty good dose of it too, pretty much everyone in my school ended up with it over the period of a month, and that was a good 13 years or so ago, before the whole vaccines-are-bad thing came out, so everyone was immunised.

The vaccine BS is today's equivalent of the BS about childhood sexual abuse that turned out to be simply therapists causing kids to "remember" so-called "repressed memories" that never happened. just like the "repressed memories" BS this crap is irrational hysteria wipped up by crackpots and greedy lawyers preying on parents.

Not to mention all the LOVELY witch hunt hysteria they manage to work up over "ritual satanic abuse" which has also proven to be a recovered memory boondoggle. Honestly, I think the NT's like to be scared of the boogyman and if they can't find one (Bundy, the Green River Killer, etc.) they manufacture one. The witch hunts in the 15th and 16th century are alive and well, they just changed the name and they don't light the fires quite as often. Instead they incarcerate innocent people for crimes that never happened... They're still being sacrificed.

Eh... the whole "vaccines are bad thing" has been around as long as vaccines have. Back in the 1980's, people thought vaccines caused AIDS, which they don't.

So you're basically saying that autism is an infectious disease? I got a lot of crap from the anti-cure, it's all genetic crowd, for saying the Lyme bacteria is one cause of autism.

Not at all. Don't twist my words, please.

It's been proven that autism is mainly genetic. However, other causes have been proven. You're getting crap because Lyme disease isn't one of them.

I thought people were offended because I suggested that an infectious disease (Lyme) may cause autism in some people. You wrote that rubella, an infectious disease, may cause autism. I don't see any difference. People who are convinced that autism is genetic and part of who they are will be offended whenever anyone says that any infectious disease (Lyme or rubella) may cause autism.

The difference is, of course, that the connection between prenatal rubella and autism has been scientifically proven (I think) whereas the "link" between Lyme disease and autism is entirely speculative.

Rubella and possibly the flu and possibly other viruses can cause disruption to the development of an embryo. If you think autism needs to be prevented then you should encourage people to get the flu vax and everyone should be up on their MMR vax. This will reduce the transmission of rubella and flu. Toxoplasmosis has been held up as a cause, but as I remember, Ambuend said that the people promoting that one were not so reliable... or something. Toxoplasmosis is not usually listed as a contagious cause of autism.

At any rate, we are talking about a woman who is barely into her pregnancy. We are not talking about a child or adult catching Lyme (a quack magnet to be sure) and becoming autistic.

I think Beau99 works for the government or the prescription drug companies....it seems to be a recurring theme with him.
Dont worry no one will ever allow a link to be known, whether its true or not. The government couldnt let it happen, there would be bunkrupting lawsuits and never ending litigation...who would pay? whats the price? who knew about it? what could have been done differently? In summary, accountability that these people dont possess. So we may as well all deny it. Its for the better.

Call me a pharma shill, too. Please? It's been months since anyone has.

Think about it. If "the man" wanted to go to a place where they could affect (infect?) the opinions of the autistics themselves, this would be the only place. autistic internet support groups. they control the internet minds of the autistics, thats the only place it matters since they have no outward voices. BLACK HELICOPTERS, VAST CONSPIRACIES!! but you know there is truth to what I said.

What what they target next if vaccines were eliminated when it was shown that it didn't stop autism?

LOL.

This is the first time anyone has ever accused me of such! Actually, I'm against Big Pharma.

Can I be a Big Pharma shill too? Please? I work cheap...

Autism is a neurological condition. There are documented, substantial differences in neuroanatomy between autistics and NTs. For instance, the ratio between white and grey matter is different, especially in the portions of the parietal lobes devoted to sensory regulation, and there are structural variations in the amygdala and hypothalamus. Are you seriously proposing that a vaccine, given after the age of 2, can cause some new neurons to grow, while others atrophy? And if so, why does it happen to (at most) approximately one-half of one percent of the population, and not, say, twenty or thirty percent?

The way that you refute comes across as the way "The man" would argue. "ARE YOU SERIOUS?" "HE MUST BE KIDDING?" "THIS IS FUNNY!"
I never even said thats what I believed, that it was in fact caused by vaccines. I just noticed that Beau99 guy is always on here taking the stance of the people that MIGHT have f*ed up everyones brains, intentionally or not.
Besides, all other signs point to "1984" and "brave new world" dystopia, so what is stopping big brother/pharma from monitoring and intervening here, however secretely. "OH GOD HES CRAZY!!"