The Vindictiveness and Mean Spirit of AS

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UncleBeer
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18 Jan 2008, 11:36 am

Someone having a public interweb meltdown? :lol:



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18 Jan 2008, 2:04 pm

This is a brilliant rant... or something!

It is just the right length. It's not so long as to be rambling yet not a one liner either (ala "you suck"). Complete sentences are used. Look at use of punctuation. We get it all; asterisks, hyphens, proper all caps, even paragraph separation. Not the work of someone who's melting down.

I have a completely different take on this post. I get that some parts of it may come across as mean spirited. I'm not happy about the meds comment as that's a matter to be taken up with a doctor. However, the bulk of the message seems to be closer to tough love to me. Also, look at the last sentence. "You're as clear as the morning sky." I take that to be a genuine complement.



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18 Jan 2008, 2:38 pm

I got tired of JJs condescending hippie s**t a while back. I hope she finds an appropriate group cos this aint her people here.



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18 Jan 2008, 2:40 pm

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I got tired of JJs condescending hippie sh** a while back. I hope she finds an appropriate group cos this aint her people here.


:hail: :lmao:


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18 Jan 2008, 2:50 pm

I don't like it when people use the concept of karma to blame other people for their misfortune. I've seen it all too often. Someone gets beat up and loses their job and their home, so everyone just shrugs and says, "Karma! Must've had it coming!" I disagree. Life is not fair. Bad things do happen to good people, and vice versa.



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18 Jan 2008, 3:11 pm

The particular Aspies jjstar’s describing do exist –let’s be honest.



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18 Jan 2008, 3:12 pm

Postperson wrote:
I got tired of JJs condescending hippie sh** a while back. I hope she finds an appropriate group cos this aint her people here.


I am VERY glad to hear you say that!! !

I'm ok with being realistic. HECK, I don't think ANYTHING is 100% great, and will say so, but I hate it when people say that a people are so bad when they aren't, etc... ESPECIALLY if I see the group as including me.



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18 Jan 2008, 3:15 pm

In essence, AS is no excuse for being a blind fool who takes things out on other people and generalises all NTs. Not that I'm attacking anyone in particular. Gives the aspies who actually try to get along a bad name.


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18 Jan 2008, 3:15 pm

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No Asperger isn't a get-out of jail card that one can ride and get cleared from all the negativity they created and go home scott free without ramifications. Karma accrues in all people at all times - every time. The mean spirit is there. The vindicitiveness, the one-man-up ship - to somehow counter the misery the AS has encountered in their life-time is apparent. What is also apparent is the seemingly - *what me worry* stance taken by those who claim AS as their cop-out. As if to say - *Ive got a disability - I can do whatever I want - and it's you who got the problem. How dare you consescend, be holier than thou and assume to know everything* because here - there's this study and this equation and the bitter plain FACTS that will PROVE that *I am a special human being who has been sorely discriminated against and now that I have a DIAGNOSES it's my FREE TICKET to screw humanity - so SCREW YOU!*.

OK - yeah. Uh huh. Right. Keep on taking those meds, keep on playing those video games, keep on posting to these forums, keep on giving the finger to humankind and put up your walls against Truth that's being said to you. Of course it's not vaccines, mercury, LCD, radiation, EMF, foods, drugs, environment, cold mothers. It's all a FLUKE in the guise of *genetics* which have ZERO to do with what your parents did, said and thought in their own lives. It's all a tragic happenstance. And there's no one to take responsibility. It's just another one of those things that are to be swallowed and chalked down to fate. And emerge from your hiding holes to attack those that harsh your mellow in that *comfort zone* of not having to look at yourselves and cop to who you are. Vindictive. And that's your karma. Your fate that you created and accepted as your journey here on the RIGHT PLANET - EARTH - where you belong in spite of your trolling attempts to claim otherwise. Get wise. Educated and stop your BS. You're as clear as the morning sky.



I think it's really cool that you can hold up that mirror and type at the same time.



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18 Jan 2008, 3:21 pm

yanuary wrote:
The particular Aspies jjstar’s describing do exist –let’s be honest.


You don't have to have a dx of AS to participate in this group. There's lots of psychos posing as aspies here too.



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18 Jan 2008, 3:36 pm

Well the part I find particularly annoying is the implication that I'm defective because I'm an Aspie, and because I had vaccinations to keep me from getting smallpox, and polio, because I live in a technological heaven with computers and palmpilots and video entertainment. I LOVE to read, but I also LOVE to play videogames for the same reason. Or do people assume you ONLY do it to "killkillkillkillkillkill"????? A good RPG has a STORY. And you get to be the hero... hello?? Anybody ever read a book and imagine themself as the friggin HERO?? That makes me "defective"?? People who want to walk away from what we've made in this world to a nonexistent dreamland where they live as one with nature make me want to puke.... Hunter/gatherers STARVED. They died young and VERY badly. Subsistence farmers are the same.... one bad winter, ONE bad rainstorm at the wrong time and you BURY YOUR CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY STARVED. I'm NOT sorry I live where my children have a GREAT chance of surviving to maturity, rather than a 40% chance of dying before age 5.... EMF?? WTF?? Don't live under a high tension line, any IDIOT knows better than that. Radiation?? Radiation saved my f***ing LIFE a couple of months ago finding a tumor in my kidney before it grew big enough to spread.... give me a break. "Natural" foods... well botulism is natural too. I want preservatives in my foods unless I pick 'em out of my own garden. Hell I'd prefer it if they IRRADIATED the foods so they could last longer. Cloned animals?? Bring 'em on, I'll eat it. Yes I eat MEAT too... <gasp> I'm an omnivore, and everybody on the PLANET is evolved from omnivores. Eating meat gives enough energy to grow a BRAIN.

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

there.... hows that for a rant???


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18 Jan 2008, 3:41 pm

AspieDave wrote:
Eating meat gives enough energy to grow a BRAIN.

Well, that does explain some of the vegetarians I've known... :wink:


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18 Jan 2008, 3:45 pm

Personally, I think jjstar is full of crap most of the time. She rants on and on trying to find someone to blame for the cause of autism. Why does she have to have a culprit and why does she need to a victim? What does she think. Some random guy from some random government think tank is going to confess on his deathbed that he actually contaminated all the water at some random preschool and caused everyone that has autism to be autistic? What warped reality is that?

Why does there have to be a cause? Why can't it be some random genetic twist of fate? Get over it. I often wonder if she's not one of those psycho NTs that pretend to be AS. I concur....she needs help with her issues and she's on more of a roll than usual.


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18 Jan 2008, 5:12 pm

Sounded like a long, angry rant of "Don't do this" and "Don't do that." Unfortunately, she didn't even tell us what it was that she didn't want us to do.

Is there someone in particular that you're mad at, jjstar?


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19 Jan 2008, 12:12 am

Just a personal observation but, most of the people I've run into who are looking desperately for a reason to "blame" something for autism seem to be religious.... as in the "believes the universe or 'GOD' takes a personal interest in things and 'creates' us all." Maybe they actually believe that, and can't accept that they were "created" this way. To do so would be to accept that "GOD" is fallible and makes mistakes, obviously something that their worldview couldn't accept. On the other hand, most of the people who seem to accept the way we are, either believe in a more remote "GOD" who doesn't intervene in each individual birth, or they aren't religious at all. The ones upset with their diagnosis usually seem to feel that we are "broken" or "defective". Those who accept it feel this is the way we're supposed to be.

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19 Jan 2008, 12:59 am

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You're on a very down beat lately, jjstar. Like, more than usual! 8O

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Ditto on that one. I spent most of my life undiagnosed. I'm me and what you see is what you get and that's all there is to it. And if that's a problem for you, then I suggest we settle it somewhere else in private.


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