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22 Jan 2008, 8:30 pm

I would worry about having children. Between my maternal age (43) and my seizure disorder, there are plenty of difficulties a child of mine could have. Cats are easier to take care of.



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22 Jan 2008, 10:36 pm

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I have Aspergers, and I've always wanted a little girl. But I don't want her to go through the rough stuff that I've gone through with Autism, and my family genes are pretty strong for Autism on my Dad's side, and just plain ol' psychos on my mom's side :lol:
I have a while yet to think about this, but I want to know the risks involved.


Same boat as me including the traits of your parents.

No way I am having children. I would never want to put them through what I went through. I would like to meet a woman who already has a child. How many men are there like that?



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23 Jan 2008, 2:31 am

JWRed wrote:
Same boat as me including the traits of your parents.

No way I am having children. I would never want to put them through what I went through. I would like to meet a woman who already has a child. How many men are there like that?


There was plenty of men like that but they died off because they had not children of their own.



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23 Jan 2008, 7:32 pm

JWRed wrote:
ebec11 wrote:
I have Aspergers, and I've always wanted a little girl. But I don't want her to go through the rough stuff that I've gone through with Autism, and my family genes are pretty strong for Autism on my Dad's side, and just plain ol' psychos on my mom's side :lol:
I have a while yet to think about this, but I want to know the risks involved.


Same boat as me including the traits of your parents.

No way I am having children. I would never want to put them through what I went through. I would like to meet a woman who already has a child. How many men are there like that?

There's quite a few, and many would just love a man to help out with bills and give their child a good father role model
Why don't you adopt if you really want a child?



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23 Jan 2008, 7:49 pm

I have noticed a lot of consistency in Aspie-type mothers expressing a great deal of trouble dealing with motherhood in general.

I strongly suspect that it may be a very common thing for Aspie moms to have their "mothering wiring" broken in some way, in the same way that Aspies in general have their "social wiring" broken. The low-level mothing instincts seem to be there, but the process of how to handle those instincts and translate them into a satisfactory motherhood experience seems to be missing.

It makes me think very much of how Aspies tend to need to handle most or all social interaction on an intellectual level, where as "neurotypical" people handle such things at an intuitive level; the intuitive handling seems natural and low cost; the intellectual handling seems to require inordinate amounts of energy; pretty much every Aspie mom I know hovers constantly on the brink of utter exhaustion.

I seek neither to encourage or discourage; this is just something to consider, based on some observations I've made.

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23 Jan 2008, 8:46 pm

I have been thinking about this issue a lot. I had a dream where I gave birth to a child who had so many problems that doctors said he would never be able to do anything, and would only be useful as an experiment after he died, probably soon after birth. It was then I decided that no child of mine was ever going to be consigned to such a fate. I dreamed I showed the same child, many years later, who had done more than any doctor ever anticipated he would, to the doctor who predicted an early death, and said, "So what do you think of Roger?" I hope that, if I do have a child, he or she will be in good health, but I will never give up on any child of mine, if I do have one.



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24 Jan 2008, 12:46 pm

Icarus_Falling wrote:
I have noticed a lot of consistency in Aspie-type mothers expressing a great deal of trouble dealing with motherhood in general.

I strongly suspect that it may be a very common thing for Aspie moms to have their "mothering wiring" broken in some way, in the same way that Aspies in general have their "social wiring" broken. The low-level mothing instincts seem to be there, but the process of how to handle those instincts and translate them into a satisfactory motherhood experience seems to be missing.

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some say that that the "refridgerator mother" theory of the past could actually be just evidence of genetics and that the mothers of autistic children who were considered "refridgerator mothers" were actually aspies.



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24 Jan 2008, 12:51 pm

9CatMom wrote:
I have been thinking about this issue a lot. I had a dream where I gave birth to a child who had so many problems that doctors said he would never be able to do anything, and would only be useful as an experiment after he died, probably soon after birth. It was then I decided that no child of mine was ever going to be consigned to such a fate. I dreamed I showed the same child, many years later, who had done more than any doctor ever anticipated he would, to the doctor who predicted an early death, and said, "So what do you think of Roger?" I hope that, if I do have a child, he or she will be in good health, but I will never give up on any child of mine, if I do have one.

That's very true, and I see your point. I believe that I will know when the time comes, but I definitely have a lot of time for it.


For the person who says that we can't be good mother, I would think that love would make up for the lack of socialization, and I already love my child, even though it's only in my thoughts. I want to be a mother, and I won't let Aspergers stop me from that, even if it gives me more problems.



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24 Jan 2008, 2:53 pm

I have AS.

My daughter has AS.

She's the best thing that ever happened to me, and the great joy of my life.


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12 Feb 2008, 5:49 pm

I think that aspies having aspie kids would be a great thing. I actually really like being autistic and like other autistics. And if someone has to be an aspie, wouldn't they be better off with an autistic parent than an NT parent who has the same problems understanding the child as the rest of the world. I'm looking forward to the possibility of an aspie mini-me (lol). As much difficulty as AS may bring, I think that it would be beyond phenomenal.

P.S. I use "aspie" and "autistic" interchangeably.


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12 Feb 2008, 5:50 pm

ebec11 wrote:
I have Aspergers, and I've always wanted a little girl. But I don't want her to go through the rough stuff that I've gone through with Autism, and my family genes are pretty strong for Autism on my Dad's side, and just plain ol' psychos on my mom's side :lol:
I have a while yet to think about this, but I want to know the risks involved.


Yes.. you could try, if you really are concerned try checking in with a genetic counselor...

but autie kids rock :D


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12 Feb 2008, 10:47 pm

My husband and I are both on the spectrum, myself more Asperger's and he more autistic. Both of our children have been diagnosed autistic; our daughter is moderate with mostly sensory issues and our son is moderate with mostly speech and communication issues, moderate sensory. Our daughter is very high-functioning. Would I hesitate for a second if I had it to do all over again? No way. My kids are awesome.


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13 Feb 2008, 1:20 am

ebec11 wrote:
9CatMom wrote:
I have been thinking about this issue a lot. I had a dream where I gave birth to a child who had so many problems that doctors said he would never be able to do anything, and would only be useful as an experiment after he died, probably soon after birth. It was then I decided that no child of mine was ever going to be consigned to such a fate. I dreamed I showed the same child, many years later, who had done more than any doctor ever anticipated he would, to the doctor who predicted an early death, and said, "So what do you think of Roger?" I hope that, if I do have a child, he or she will be in good health, but I will never give up on any child of mine, if I do have one.

That's very true, and I see your point. I believe that I will know when the time comes, but I definitely have a lot of time for it.


For the person who says that we can't be good mother, I would think that love would make up for the lack of socialization, and I already love my child, even though it's only in my thoughts. I want to be a mother, and I won't let Aspergers stop me from that, even if it gives me more problems.


I want to point it out: You will be a great mother because of AS, not in spite of it.

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I already love my child, even though it's only in my thoughts.


:') *sniffle* (Seriously, hearing this makes me more happy than you can imagine.)

Also, my encouraging aspies to breed is a part of my de facto fight against eugenics. "You want to prevent us? Well, if autism is genetic, I'll do my part to make sure we aren't eliminated." And autie kids do rock hardcore. I want 'em too.


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13 Feb 2008, 1:44 am

ebec11 wrote:
I have Aspergers, and I've always wanted a little girl. But I don't want her to go through the rough stuff that I've gone through with Autism, and my family genes are pretty strong for Autism on my Dad's side, and just plain ol' psychos on my mom's side :lol:
I have a while yet to think about this, but I want to know the risks involved.


There are risks in any pregnancy, no matter what genetics you or your [future] partner may or may not have. Sure, some risks are greater in some pregnancies [in your case, autism], but that should in no way stop you from having children.
If you did decide to have children in the future and they did end up having AS or Autism, there is much more help these days than there was even just 10 years ago. They would never lack support and would have a great chance at life just like any child.
A thing to remember also, that each child comes with their own different strengths and weaknesses, no child is perfect.


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13 Feb 2008, 1:46 am

Autie kids rock.. i agree... keep the breeding going... you guys must breed for me since i cannot help extend the autie sensation... for the neuro degenerative disease i have is likely genetic defect and i also am asexual... so that does not help

(HINT: EBEC11 CHECK YOUR PM'S!! !!)


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13 Feb 2008, 7:38 am

It depends who the father is. It seems that low functioning autism is more likely to appear if it's the child of two aspies. But if the father is pretty NT I don't think there will be much risk, or at least not as much.