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DrizzleMan
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15 Sep 2005, 12:38 pm

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Neuromad society is the oppression of all against all; it is neuro-madness.


And I always thought that was just human nature :wink:


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15 Sep 2005, 2:42 pm

Nts are fine with me. They are equals they are inviduals.



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15 Sep 2005, 2:46 pm

Percetange-wise, I've met more NAs I like than Aspies.

EDIT: But don't get me wrong. I've met plenty of a**hole NAs.


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15 Sep 2005, 5:14 pm

Hatred for NTs makes me sick. I've considered leaving the forums more than once due to the anti-NT posts and threads.

Sophist wrote:
Percetange-wise, I've met more NAs I like than Aspies.


Same here.



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15 Sep 2005, 6:15 pm

I don't know what I would do without the rare few good NT friends I connect with. I call them my translators because they convert what I say into what I mean so that others can understand me.



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15 Sep 2005, 8:23 pm

Sophist wrote:
Percetange-wise, I've met more NAs I like than Aspies.

EDIT: But don't get me wrong. I've met plenty of a**hole NAs.

Yes, I find it harder to develop an all-around impression of a person online. Of the very small sample of aspies I've met offline, I've noted signs of potentially serious personality disorder in most of them. As I wrote in another topic, I speculate that Asperger's syndrome poses a greater risk of developing a maladaptive personality structure in addition to the underlying neurodevelopmental differences.

NTs, being more practiced at the socialization game, know how to express their concerns without ruffling feathers. They have a sense of when to be serious and when to relax. For us aspies, we have little experience in these areas and are bound to make more mistakes simply because we're still learning (Asperger's syndrome is a disorder of development, after all).



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15 Sep 2005, 9:23 pm

Coded wrote: "I don't know what I would do without the rare few good NT friends I connect with. I call them my translators because they convert what I say into what I mean so that others can understand me."

While I do not use the word "friend" - I prefer acquaintances - I agree with Coded. I would not have survived as a professional in the NT world without the support and sometimes protection from a certain type of hostile NT, often behind the scenes, of many NT fellow professionals and good supervisors who allowed for my blunt manner and intense and obsessive behaviour because they admired my work and understanding of the clients with whom we worked in the disability services for whom I worked. Like Coded I used these "safe" and trusted NTs as translators [or "mediators" to support me in novel settings, warn me when I was getting "off the reservation" in terms of social codes or even ground me when I was starting to become anxious and lose control.

What must be recognised is that the sort of hostile NT who attacked me because of my obvious "difference" was just as likely to attack any NT person who challenged them in any way exactly as such people attacked me.

The majority of NTs are allright, but there are some real mongrels amongst them.

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15 Sep 2005, 9:36 pm

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as lowfreq50 wrote, the phrase i live my life by is "when in rome..." so when i come to this site (my only escape from it all) i like to be a bit cheeky about the NTs because it helps me release pent-up frustration.


Same here.

I spend 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week, for ghod knows how many years to come, in a workplace structured more for NTs than people like me. Then I run errands at places not designed for people like me. On top of all that, I have the joy :roll: of sharing an office with someone who has a lot of the NT traits that have frustrated and/or confused me me throughout my life. She's definitely a "typical" neurotypical. I spend most of my waking hours trying to do as the Romans do, only to end up drained at the end of the day as a result.

Needless to say, I get more than a little frustrated, and I come here to speak my mind, not candy-coat what I have to say. I do enough of that during the day.

This isn't to say that all things NT are bad, but because they are outside our circle of understanding (as someone else posted here) it's bound to cause interpersonal friction and hard feelings.



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15 Sep 2005, 10:23 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
Sophist wrote:
Percetange-wise, I've met more NAs I like than Aspies.

EDIT: But don't get me wrong. I've met plenty of a**hole NAs.

Yes, I find it harder to develop an all-around impression of a person online. Of the very small sample of aspies I've met offline, I've noted signs of potentially serious personality disorder in most of them. As I wrote in another topic, I speculate that Asperger's syndrome poses a greater risk of developing a maladaptive personality structure in addition to the underlying neurodevelopmental differences.


Neant, I am just curious and I hope this doesn't sound malicious because when I ask this it is not meant to be so, but:

Do you actually realize how awkward it is with you talking to me about me as if I were two separate people and I've never met myself??

Thus, I don't really know how to answer your reply. Only that you are making me very tired of the DSM.


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15 Sep 2005, 10:59 pm

I sometimes fall into the trap of getting grouchy at NT's... but I sort of try not to!


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16 Sep 2005, 1:19 am

Well, I used to blame God (Is he a NT?).

Then realising that God is as real as Santa Claus (although some would dispute that), I shifted the blame to humanity.

Then I learnt about AS, and gradually things are beginning to make sense - people aren't out there trying to make things difficult for us. Things might be more difficult for us, but that's just life - sh*t happens.



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16 Sep 2005, 1:27 am

Sophist wrote:
Do you actually realize how awkward it is with you talking to me about me as if I were two separate people and I've never met myself??

Thus, I don't really know how to answer your reply. Only that you are making me very tired of the DSM.[/size]

I'm referring to all the members of BONSAI, including myself, not just you.



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16 Sep 2005, 1:28 am

Lol, I don't think there are enough 'gods' up there for there to BE a typical! I still think God exists though...


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16 Sep 2005, 9:24 am

I hate NTs, they can't bear people differences



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16 Sep 2005, 9:36 am

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16 Sep 2005, 10:09 am

galatea wrote:
so tru wat we need is accepttance of more ppl like
sex adicts
assburgers
add
homasexuls
transexuls
tranvestites
dwarfs
little ppl
men who look lik gorillaz
ugly ppl
these shud be the priorities of our democratec socities
who thinks i shud run for precident i got good ideas no


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Homosexuals? No problem with them. Neither with Transexuals or Transvestites, or Dwarfs (long as they keep their axes away from me :P)...

Ugly people? Aren't they a majority anyway?

ADD and aspies? yes, we need to be more accepted... But we also need to learn to negociate.


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