Rather be stupid and happy or intelligent and unhappy?

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Would you rather be dumb and happy or intelligent and unhappy?
I would rather be stupid and happy? 34%  34%  [ 15 ]
I would rather be intelligent and unhappy? 66%  66%  [ 29 ]
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20 Mar 2008, 11:21 am

I chose intelligent and unhappy. However, my intelligence brings me happiness! :D


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20 Mar 2008, 11:25 am

The last 5 or 6 replies are the exact reason why "Aspies" aren't accepted in society. You choose to play by your own rules.

Some of you think you are being creative and witty by following your own rules. This is the exact attitude that brings yourself down in society.

By the way. I have AS.



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20 Mar 2008, 11:31 am

JWRed wrote:
The last 5 or 6 replies are the exact reason why "Aspies" aren't accepted in society. You choose to play by your own rules.

Some of you think you are being creative and witty and follow your own rules. This is the exact attitude that brings yourself down in society.

By the way. I have AS.


I am intelligent and Happy. I Keep all my quirks, and my knowladge and I have a good bunch of friends. It's not the matter of not acknowladging ones own intellegince, it is a matter of choosing your battles.



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20 Mar 2008, 11:32 am

A society requires a variety of people in it in order to function properly. One could argue that what most people think are the best roles and rules for everyone in a society, might not actually be the best roles and rules for everyone, only for some people. You can't make a good machine out of only screws, and you can't make a good society out of only one kind (or one set of kinds) of people. Everyone has a place and their place might not be where people expect it to be. For instance, a person I know said that he was the sort of person who would say the emperor is naked. That would annoy a lot of people but it's also a necessary, if sometimes hated, job.


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20 Mar 2008, 11:41 am

Sora wrote:
I'm happy. I picked the second choice anyway. I can live with being unhappy.

There is no wrong choice.

Maybe wrong and right for you, but different people mean different truths.


Wow, weird, I never thought that people could [s]be happy[/s]-- I mean, find life tolerable -- when being unhappy in life. Maybe that's a strange personality trait I never knew could possibly exist ... or maybe you're underestimating what unhappiness is like because you're happy.



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20 Mar 2008, 11:45 am

JWRed wrote:
The last 5 or 6 replies are the exact reason why "Aspies" aren't accepted in society. You choose to play by your own rules.

Some of you think you are being creative and witty by following your own rules. This is the exact attitude that brings yourself down in society.

By the way. I have AS.


Maybe, but I can live without society accepting me. Is it really so wrong to think for yourself and not by society's standards?


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20 Mar 2008, 11:57 am

of course i'd rather be happy :)

who would want to live a smart miserable life... unless i was so intelligent i was able to find a way to be happy ;)



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20 Mar 2008, 11:57 am

Being intelligent and unhappy sucked while i was growing up, I wished I was one of the special ed kids who didn't know what teasing meant. So it is stupid and happy for me



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20 Mar 2008, 12:02 pm

Roseduelist wrote:
Being intelligent and unhappy sucked while i was growing up, I wished I was one of the special ed kids who didn't know what teasing meant. So it is stupid and happy for me


The "special ed kids" do know what teasing is.


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20 Mar 2008, 12:06 pm

I'm already intelligent and unhappy. But I definitely prefer that over being stupid.


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20 Mar 2008, 12:14 pm

itw wrote:
I would use my intelligence to make myself happy.


I really like this answer -- I think it's the best response!

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20 Mar 2008, 12:22 pm

jayssite wrote:
Sora wrote:
I'm happy. I picked the second choice anyway. I can live with being unhappy.

There is no wrong choice.

Maybe wrong and right for you, but different people mean different truths.


Wow, weird, I never thought that people could [s]be happy[/s]-- I mean, find life tolerable -- when being unhappy in life. Maybe that's a strange personality trait I never knew could possibly exist ... or maybe you're underestimating what unhappiness is like because you're happy.


I know pretty well what unhappiness feels like. But even if the world crushes down on one and one along with it, it doesn't mean you can never be happy afterwards.
I was 'unhappy', I survived, I'm happy now. Happiness in life is different from 'finding life tolerable'. I don't find life that tolerable, I know lots of intolerable things I'd love to fix at any chance, all over the world and more than I can possibly count.

I find it rather odd that several people assumes that being happy and satisfied must mean one has never experienced 'the bad things'. Or that a lack of anxiety must mean one has never faced the causes of anxiety. Or lack of depression, PTSD... suffering can happen well and frequently and severe without causing a mental disorder like these or any other. Different things for different people, neither is 'better' than the other.

Problem is, there's no measure of 'suffering'. but everyone wants it. To say one suffers, to cry out is one thing - one often very necessary thing actually - but it's another to feel in a position of power to decide how much value another's suffering (disability, happiness, life, personality, choices... the list goes on) has, which is ludicrous.



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20 Mar 2008, 12:41 pm

I chose intelligent and unhappy. I definitely value intelligence a bit too much, but I just can't stand people who are dumb. Granted, if I was dumb, I wouldn't care. But I really enjoy learning and I believe I should be aware of what's going on. I'm used to being mildly unhappy, but I couldn't live with myself if I didn't care about what matters. I suppose dumb doesn't necessarily mean flaky - I could deal with being less bright, but I want to maintain my love of knowledge and interest in politics etc. I feel like my life would be meaningless if I was obsessed with meaningless things. Sadly, I think I'd rather be admired for being smart but still unhappy than be happy in my ignorance.



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20 Mar 2008, 12:49 pm

JWRed wrote:
The correct answer (and there is a correct answer) is stupid and happy. If everyone with AS would try and understand this, then you have taken the first step to becoming more happy.

aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh


my head hurts.


You're apparently on the way to being dumb and happy.


This is the reason why society sucks, we're not colonizing the solar system, we still have war, poverty, etc.

People choose to be dumb and happy. Dumb people are subject to irrational fears and being lead by them. (how else did we get into Iraq?) They're the reason for things like the "Ultimate Solution" of Hitler, the Inquisition, the Crusades, the 9-11 attacks on NYC.

If everyone chose smart and unhappy soon there wouldn't be unhappy people as we'd have found answers to our questions. And we wouldn't have to put up with all the stupid people in the world.


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20 Mar 2008, 1:06 pm

Intelligence leads to happiness, as happiness is an intelligent choice which requires a certain degree of awareness. Becoming 'dumb' would strip you of your ability to make this choice.



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20 Mar 2008, 1:52 pm

Grimfaire wrote:

Dumb people are subject to irrational fears....


Yea.. I am proud to be an Aspie and have rational fears such as telephones.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt59524.html