Thimerosal and Autism - A Scientific Perspective

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Why was Zendell banned by the way??

He's not banned.

Oh? It says under his name 'banned' on my screen.

Ah well, I hope not - perhaps it's a silly prank... Zendell, change your status thing!!

Don't banned people have a red cross as well?

Yeah, we don't allow that.

Thimerosal was banned in vaccines in California back in the late 90s. Autism rates in the state have been unaffected.

Well, there's a space between the autism rates and the removal of thimerosal from vaccines. The numbers are small, and with the give and take of the increase/decrease of autism rates, there's evidence that supports that Thimerosal may have indeed caused autism in a small, small percentage of cases. Of course, because of the general ambiguity of the numbers, it isn't concrete. But there is a possibility. As well, it has been proven that there is a genetic deletion that occured only in a few individuals with Autism.

So it's similar to the argument made about tobacco. Some people get cancer, but it's not all because of cigarettes.

Also, from what I've seen of comparing Autism rates, both against a US national average, and the 1 in 150 numbers, then there's a gap where Thimerosal would fit as being one of the causes of autism. I also compared the Canadian national numbers, and Canada phased out thimerosal completely in 1996. The numbers coincide; however, that was between a state and an entire country...

Anyways, I look forward to some good discussions.

Exactly. I don't think anyone is suggesting thimerosal is the ONLY cause of autism, just that it could be ONE OF MANY causes affecting SOME people.

I found this one to be interesting. I'm not sure on what to think of the thimerosal-autism link. In spite of all, autism rates go up still. Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links With Immunizations The question would be, if there's a link between thimerosal and autism, whether it's important enough to investigate further into vaccination of all things or not.

LeKiwi, I couldn't agree with you more.

Sora, you bring up a good point with that study. I wonder... Do those rates of increase match rates of increase in the other provinces? As well, the number of cases are 0.00648% of the subjects, or 180 out of 27749. 1 in 150 is 0.00666% but... I read somewhere that another number(evidently more accurate or something) was 1 in 166, meaning 0.00602%. Thus, there is a statistical gap. The numbers represents all ASDs. So there is a small statistical gap where it would appear to be accurate... but really, it would need to be compared to other provincial rates, in an average, to determine if it is above or below that average.

Of course, most of what I'm going on may be a little fuzzy ,because I've stayed up too late agian. Good night, before I fall asleep at the keyboard.