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ShizzleMacDaddy
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05 Apr 2008, 12:12 am

In my opinion, most people with AS (or at least the ones I have encountered) were more goth than emo. I have a strong distaste for emo but everyone at school calls me emo. So I guess what I'm getting at is that it depends on what emo is to you, I attach a lot of negativity to it because all the emos I know are very negative people.



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05 Apr 2008, 12:21 am

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They were called Goths back in my day. :wink:


Ohhh, I never knew what the hell emo was and never bothered to ask, duh! they were the so called goths from high school got it!


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05 Apr 2008, 12:43 am

The thing about goth is that it is derived from germanic paganism where as emo is simply short for emotional... they have very different origins and the style is very different.



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05 Apr 2008, 2:16 am

All you have done is added another layer to the existing complexity of the NT-Autistic spectrum (which is already questionable). The diversity of AS people alone would suggest that such a simplistic approach is unlikely to be valid.



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05 Apr 2008, 2:53 am

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thought Emo was a really bad comedian back in the 90s... or was that Eno? (Could be either...


Oh...I love Emo Phillips :)
He has always been one of my favorites...and he has nothing to do with the "Emo" movement, which sorta turns my stomach. I hate the music, because it all sounds exactly the same....I felt the same way about "emo" when it took over as I did when "Jam' music took over....bleh.....yawn....yuck...

I really think that "Emo" people really have nothing to do with the autistic spectrum....maybe some of them are aspies, but there are also Aspie metalheads and aspie um....whatever.....but to me it is a stylistic gendre that has no direct connection to um...the autistic spectrum..for lack of better terms..

I have never been goth (ok..maybe hust a tiny bit in Jr.High in a very akward, nerdy non-poseure sorta way that got made fun of...)...have never been "emo"....From what little understanding I have about "Emos" and I have associated with some of them to a certain extent (albiet they were, and still are younger than me)....They seem very in touch with their emotions, whereas I have difficulty understanding my emotions...have a hard time bonding with anyone regardless of musical tastes and clothing preference....
I have observed the sheeplike tendancies of these people, and I simply don't fit in with them.



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05 Apr 2008, 3:01 am

Many people with Asperger's are fascinated with morbid topics, but this is a genuine interest rather than doing something for it's seen as "different" (people with AS do things without caring for social norms); reading about violence and death are quite common.

Asperger's is partly defined by emotional difficulties, whether showing too many emotions for the situation, or too little.

Depression, apathy, suicidal ideation, hopelessness, etcetera, are all products of social isolation/rejection that Asperger's creates [in most of the cases].



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05 Apr 2008, 3:19 am

I think that I've passed the emo tunnel, during my last two years of High School. They were called Shrubs, back than and I wasn't able to switch off my dark mood, where as the true ones were able, to do so.


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05 Apr 2008, 12:27 pm

Emo is not a genre of music! I'm referring to the Encyclopedia Dramatica definition (no link because the article is borderline NSFW).

An emo:

  • Has an androgynous appearance
  • May have bisexual or homosexual proclivities
  • Puts on a melodramatic pose of depression
  • Writes crappy poetry full of cliché and bad style
  • Listens to similarly poor quality music with singers who possess high-pitched, whiny voices
  • Has a tendency to cut or self-mutilate
  • Is usually a teenager



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05 Apr 2008, 1:17 pm

i wouldn't say so, tho I in fact did something like that. I think that I sort of misdiagnosed myself, and then, having convinced myself I was a depressed person, acted successfully to type for a few destructive years. Indeed, ironically, I think because I have AS, I was more emo than other emos, because I took it seriously at a profound level. Being Aspergian but ignorant of it, one is inclined to ask: What is wrong with me? In my case, in perhaps in the case of other Emo-Aspergians, the emo path results from not knowing the correct answer to that question.
Fact of the matter is that I'm not fundamentally a negative person, and indeed, it seems in a certain sense ( to engage in a bit of armchair psychology), that aspergers and emoism/depressionism are quite dissimilar( tho i'm not of course denying that they often go together in the world), the former being characterized by lack of interest, the latter (at least in my case) in all-consuming, life-meaning-giving interest in things.



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05 Apr 2008, 1:41 pm

well i like the type of music... well if my chemical romance and fall out boy count as 'emo'
Also i like 'heavy metal' such as bullet for my valentine and slipknot and trivium.
so what? i like quite cool music.

And yeh you might mean emo like the depressing people who cut themselves, but seriously!

Ok so i used to be 'depressed' and i even thought about cutting myself before but i dont think that that behaviour and thought was 'emo' exactly. it was just,,like something i was going through at the time.

Now Well :D ....im extremely happy about my life really!! Yeah lifes great at the moment!!

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05 Apr 2008, 2:32 pm

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Emo is not a genre of music!


'fraid so...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(music)

..and I should differentiate that I do not hate all bands that qualify as "Emo" (I really like Husker Du...AND Fugazi), but I have been privy to many many (smaller indie ) Emo bands that sounded exactly the same...with each song having the same kind of chord structure and style, so that on a night it sounded as though 3 bands would play and each set would consist of the same song being played over and over again...

I can't think of the term "Emo" without visualising the snooty young hipsters with expensive haircuts in their eyes, all very similarly dressed who would come to see the bands.

(not at my venue so much, but at the one I used to live behind, where it seemed as though these bands had taken over like the plague)



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05 Apr 2008, 3:09 pm

poopylungstuffing wrote:
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Emo is not a genre of music!


'fraid so...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_(music)

..and I should differentiate that I do not hate all bands that qualify as "Emo" (I really like Husker Du...AND Fugazi), but I have been privy to many many (smaller indie ) Emo bands that sounded exactly the same...with each song having the same kind of chord structure and style, so that on a night it sounded as though 3 bands would play and each set would consist of the same song being played over and over again...

I can't think of the term "Emo" without visualising the snooty young hipsters with expensive haircuts in their eyes, all very similarly dressed who would come to see the bands.

(not at my venue so much, but at the one I used to live behind, where it seemed as though these bands had taken over like the plague)


My daughter likes to tell me that she'd be emo but she doesn't cut herself, just her hair.

I like several emo bands; but then I listen for talent in my music not any particular genre. (I'm listening to Nudie and the Turks right now.)

Screamo bands... well, now that's something leaving a weird taste in my mouth, but only because I haven't heard one with any talent yet.


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05 Apr 2008, 3:39 pm

Screamo is usually sensory assault for me. 8O
Screamo bands make me cry.
Why all the screaming?...it is not as if anything they say can be understood :cry:
So many times have I huddled in fetal postition behind my bar during screamo bands.
But I could say the same about other gendres of music as well...
My sensory issues do affect my capacity to enjoy alot of different kinds of music, albiet I have been desensitised over the years...

I listen to bands for uniqueness and talent and not any particular gendre as well...
I have just helped run a venue for 5 years, and therefore was sorta subject to bombardment.....and before that, I loafed around the music scene after the band I was in for 10 years fell apart.
That is where my generalizations come from...I don't really mean to make sweeping generalizations about any gendre of music or stylistic movement, but after seeing the same cookie-cutter Emo bands take themselves so seriously while seemingly playing the same sounding songs over and over, it is hard not to..



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05 Apr 2008, 3:59 pm

never been emo tunnel....children of bodom saved me [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_10zZ1XpmU0[/youtube]


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05 Apr 2008, 5:05 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
Emo is not a genre of music! I'm referring to the Encyclopedia Dramatica definition (no link because the article is borderline NSFW).

An emo:
  • Has an androgynous appearance
  • May have bisexual or homosexual proclivities
  • Puts on a melodramatic pose of depression
  • Writes crappy poetry full of cliché and bad style
  • Listens to similarly poor quality music with singers who possess high-pitched, whiny voices
  • Has a tendency to cut or self-mutilate
  • Is usually a teenager


WOW, I had ENOUGH problems when I was a teenager. If I was as you described, I would probably be disfigured or dead. Frankly, the only thing I had on this list was that I was a teenager! Are there REALLY enough males in that group to give them any mention here?



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05 Apr 2008, 5:10 pm

emo,,,,suc a stupid stereotype and your 'definition' is stupid.

Anyone can be bisexual and homosexual

Anyone can have andrognous appearence

Anyone can be depressed

Anyone can write poetry

Anyone can listen to music with singers with high pitched whiny voices

Anyone can cut/self harm, dosnt neccesory have to be emo

Anyone can be 'emo# not just teenagers'


So see your definition is rather stupid and stereotypical (made up by nts)

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