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14 Apr 2008, 5:40 am

I expect you are probably correct about the link, Remnant, but I don't think abuse causes autism so much as an autistic person is more likely to be abused.


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14 Apr 2008, 4:31 pm

Catalyst wrote:
I expect you are probably correct about the link, Remnant, but I don't think abuse causes autism so much as an autistic person is more likely to be abused.


The likelihood of abuse is so great that I don't know how you can separate the symptoms.



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14 Apr 2008, 8:26 pm

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Apparently, it's somewhat common for parents of autistic children to take measures to prevent themselves from having another autistic child because they have a word for it: "stoppage". They stop having children or they make sure to only have girls because girls are less likely to be diagnosed with an ASD.


I understand why parents of autistic children have that thing called stoppage. If one autistic child is a challenge, two could totally disrupt family life. The right to life obviously doesn't apply to children who have yet to be conceived. Practical considerations exist in every family.


I agree with this. However, according to that article I linked, stoppage has become the expectation for families with a child not the spectrum. This includes kids with AS. As in parents are encouraged by their peers to have no more children after one child has been diagnosed with an ASD.

What I find more disturbing is the practice of using technology to select a female child in all pregnancies following the ASD diagnosis. IMO, it is not yet known whether ASDs are really more common in males or if they are just diagnosed more frequently in males. Also, this practice of selecting for a child that is statistically less likely to be diagnosed with an ASD seems sketchy for a lot of reasons. What if the girl does turn out to have an ASD? What if she turns out to be challenging to raise for different reasons? If this were to become a common practice, what would the implications be? An unbalanced male to female ratio?

When you get pregnant, you aren't guaranteed a normal child who will be easy to raise. If that's what you want, you should get a robot instead.



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14 Apr 2008, 10:13 pm

Remnant wrote:
The likelihood of abuse is so great that I don't know how you can separate the symptoms.


Err, I don't understand. I'm getting two concepts, and not seeing how they connect.

Though I gotta say it's kinda comforting to know that I can just SAY that here, and people will get it. :D

I've never seen anything to indicate that autism can be caused by physical or emotional trauma.


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15 Apr 2008, 7:46 am

When I'm angry and bitter, I like to think my Dad is the responsible party when it comes to my AS. I sometimes equate his contribution to my DNA with the HFA itself, and resent like hell him for it. But this is silly. No one willingly transmits AS through his seed. My parents are really good people, and I do not blame them for my troubles on the autism spectrum. Raising me was not easy, I know. I did not have an easy time of it, myself.



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16 Apr 2008, 11:37 pm

Catalyst wrote:
Remnant wrote:
The likelihood of abuse is so great that I don't know how you can separate the symptoms.


Err, I don't understand. I'm getting two concepts, and not seeing how they connect.

Though I gotta say it's kinda comforting to know that I can just SAY that here, and people will get it. :D

I've never seen anything to indicate that autism can be caused by physical or emotional trauma.


I will have to admit that I don't know a whole lot about autism, but I read "Dibs, in Search of Self." Children who are abused often form shells around themselves to keep the world out and some semblance of sanity inside. That is what I think I often see in autistic children.

Certainly a genetic problem or a poisoning could cause pain and suffering that is the equivalent of abuse.