Page 2 of 3 [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Ryn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 9 Apr 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 492

15 Apr 2008, 5:02 pm

I have inner monologues. It's sad, one of the few "sounds" I hear in my head without effort is my own voice so I often just talk to myself internally. I have to throw in my agreement about being unable to stop thinking. I live my life constantly thinking, I even go to sleep thinking. The closest thnig I can imagine to not thinking is when I get depressed and overwhelmed and I stare at the wall and only concentrate on my breathing.



RohrbachDS
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 231
Location: Pennsylvania, US

15 Apr 2008, 5:03 pm

I am always thinking, and can't really imagine what it would be like/how to think less/none. I also have conversations with myself sometimes

herakh wrote:
also, i had grey hairs and im only 23, people say its because im thinking too much, its this true?

I don't know if it's true, but I also have grey hairs (only 15 :( )


_________________
"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude."
-Thomas Jefferson


Grey_Kameleon
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 20 Feb 2008
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 193

15 Apr 2008, 5:44 pm

herakh wrote:
i even had an imaginary conversation between my brain and myself (i know it sounds weird)


Not at all. At least not to me, but then again, I am stranger than most. I do that all of the time and tend to mouth words. My mom used to worry I might turn out schizophrenic.

herakh wrote:
Sometimes, more than two people are involved.


Okay, that's a little odd, but probably a very healthy way of sorting out your thoughts. I'm sure I've done it before.

herakh wrote:
also, i had grey hairs and im only 23, people say its because im thinking too much, its this true?


Thought-induced progeria? I don't think so. It's probably just genetics.



CrushedPentagon
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 8 Oct 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 119
Location: The universe is inside my mind

15 Apr 2008, 10:51 pm

I think, therefore I am.



Odin
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2006
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,475
Location: Moorhead, Minnesota, USA

15 Apr 2008, 10:58 pm

CrushedPentagon wrote:
I think, therefore I am.


I object to this statement. Just because there has been thought doesn't necessarily lead to the conclusion that there is a self doing the thinking.

(I've been reading up on Buddhist Philosophy, can you tell? :lol: )


_________________
My Blog: My Autistic Life


CrushedPentagon
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 8 Oct 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 119
Location: The universe is inside my mind

15 Apr 2008, 11:13 pm

Well, if I don't exist, then there's no reason to keep thinking. Good night, I'm going to bed!



Encyclopedia
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 11 Apr 2008
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 86
Location: Utah

16 Apr 2008, 12:19 am

Odin wrote:
Just because there has been thought doesn't necessarily lead to the conclusion that there is a self doing the thinking.
I guess what counts as "self" is more a matter of semantics, but surely if there has been a thought, that proves something exists. :wink:

I have near-constant monologues/dialogs(/trialogs?) in my head. It helps me organize my knowledge, find new connections, and figure out how to say things. The voices sometimes take the form of people I know or have seen on TV, but usually it's from a set of fictional characters I've made up. I think I'll write stories about them someday. And it's not just voices, I usually see pictures of them too. Facial expressions and body language are an important part of conversations (and frankly, I need practice with that part even if it is all in my head.) They typically interact in their story setting, but usually in a situation somehow relevant to whatever is going on in my life. I usually consciously take one character and let the others talk for "themselves", meaning what they say depends on my intuitive understanding of their personality and their responses are largely unconscious on my part.
Willard wrote:
I think clearly, I think deeply, but I do not think quickly - thus, if I expect to have to confront someone in a situation that's likely to cause a disagreement, I practice the argument from every side repeatedly playing both parts, so I don't get blindsided with something I'm at a loss to respond to
Ditto. I still get blindsided sometimes though :cry: And it's not just for arguments. I usually have to rehearse what I'm about to say in my head or I wont be able talk fluently (or even coherently.) I can give the illusion of neurotypical fluent speech if it's on a topic I've rehearsed to myself enough (even if it was a long time ago), so people are often surprised when I suddenly can't talk. Even people who know I have AS tend to forget sometimes and can't understand why I can't do some things when I seem to be so capable. I keep telling them I'm only pretending to be normal, that it's an illusion, a facade, and I can't keep it up all the time. But they still forget...


_________________
Everything's related if you look deep enough...


tbam
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 15 Feb 2008
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 120

16 Apr 2008, 1:13 am

I don't necessarily think its about thinking or not thinking.

When people say that you think too much, it isn't a case of you trying to stop thinking. Its not that we think too much, everyone thinks at all times (unless they are using narcotics and manage to achieve a state of thoughtless thought), our problem is that we think about things on an analytical level much more so than most people.

For example, a previous example that has been posited is that they prepare themselves for social outings of confrontations, practice or go through their head what they are going to say.

Normal people would not do this on such an active level. Any preparation would be subconscious or would wait until the actual situation where their actions would be spontaneous or depend on the situation at hand rather than preparation.

A way that I try and describe it to Doctor's is:
I will decide one day to walk from my bed to my door, but before actually doing this, I will think about how comfy the bed is, whether I really want to go to the door or not, or whether I should stay in bed, but if i'm staying in bed, is that being lazy? If someone knew I just wanted to stay in bed would they accuse me of being lazy? Maybe I should get out of bed, and just sit up on the bed at first, I can go to the door anytime I want, Though the light outside looks nice, maybe i'll go to the window. Hold on, I'll put on some clothes first, then I'll think "wait a second, why am I thinking about all of this in my head, hello brain!, ok back on track" I'll put some clothes on, go to the door then forget why I was going to the door, and that maybe there was another reason. I'll stand there for a bit, look out the window again, then remember why I wanted to go to the door, to go out into the hall and into the kitchen.

All of that happens in a split second and it isn't all entirely an inner monologue, just lots of thoughts, however to the observer, I might hesitate for a moment going to the door but otherwise it just looks like I sat up in bed for a moment, looked out the window then left the room.

Wheras normally, someone would do what it looked like i was doing, and only think of that. For example, a normal person would only think:
Oh, i'm awake (then sit up), I'm up, oh its nice outside, i'm going to get a drink (then they get up and get a drink from the fridge). And thats it.

See, now i've forgotten what I was getting at in the first place.



oxes
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 50

16 Apr 2008, 2:46 am

i talk to myself constantly. its terrible.

i also do the inner dialogue and monologue pretty often as well. i also pre-rehearse conversations, and speak aloud conversations that i've just had (if i'm alone, obviously). the thing is that i do it so absentmindedly that i'm always in danger of getting caught talking to myself. its very embarrassing to me. who knows if it actually should be or not, but it is nevertheless.

the only time it stops is when i listen to music. i listen to music A LOT.



herakh
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 44

16 Apr 2008, 7:12 am

Jeyradan wrote:
Willard wrote:
if I expect to have to confront someone in a situation that's likely to cause a disagreement, I practice the argument from every side repeatedly playing both parts, so I don't get blindsided with something I'm at a loss to respond to, which lends itself toward first shutdown, then meltdown.


I do this ALL the time.
I have an inner monologue. I have inner dialogue. I try to shut it off, especially when I'm not feeling good, but I can't. I rehearse things, like arguments, introductions, questions, favors, etc. I talk things over with myself. I narrate situations. You name it.


i totally agree, inner monoloque is actually a useful tool in solving ethical dilemmas, this is what i learn from my school
it is called 'Bok's model'. it is use to solve those pesky ethical issues. it has four steps, and the inner monolque comes in the third step where you have to create a public discussion with those who involved. and if you cant gather them, make up the conversation inside your head. it is useful, no?



t0
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Posts: 726
Location: The 4 Corners of the 4th Dimension

16 Apr 2008, 10:01 am

I have the same experience. Sometimes I experience it while I sleep also.

herakh wrote:
Sometimes, more than two people are involved.


Under normal circumstances I've had 2 or 3 voices / threads going on. I experienced food poisoning / dehydration once and it increased to 5 or 6. I'm just glad they were being cooperative (we were designing and building an imaginary arch).



Daewoodrow
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 182
Location: Canterbury, England

16 Apr 2008, 10:07 am

yeah, although that's probably a NT thing too. I often separate my mind into several "partitions" and talk to myself in my head. Not multiple personalities, more like the same personality duplicated. Like a Dual-core processor.
For difficult decisions I hold a conversation with myself, one side advocating the emotional reasoning, and another side with cold logic.

As for "thinking too much", I certainly do that. In a quiet room with nothing to occupy my mind, my brain will produce various ideas and expand on them, until eventually the level of thought becomes too complex and I can't sustain it anymore. Then I feel my blood pressure rise and I start to get lethargic.



SilverProteus
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,915
Location: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

16 Apr 2008, 10:31 am

You can say I have plenty of internal monologues going on in my head. Sometimes it's constant and other times there aren't any, when I'm not thinking in words.


_________________
"Lightning is but a flicker of light, punctuated on all sides by darkness." - Loki


musicara
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 7

16 Apr 2008, 11:20 pm

I always think way too much. I always come up with, like, excuses or explanations for everything hypothetically. I seem to be saying my thoughts in my head, then I catch myself doing that and think, "Stop that." I don't know, but I wish I could just turn off my thoughts, especially when I want to sleep. Like many other people on here, I also rehearse what I am going to say and do, whether I try to or not, but I don't think I could speak coherently without having a previous idea of what to say, and I think a lot about what actions to take, just like tbam's example of getting out of bed. I think I had almost the exact same thoughts when I woke up this morning. Also, I replay situations that happened, even a long time ago, over and over in my head. It's weird because I always seem to remember meaningless details, for example, a few sentences or a short event, or an unimportant fact. I also memorize piano music quite well. After I've learned it, it's there until I stop practicing it at all and learn other pieces.



ReallyGoodName
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 153
Location: TN

17 Apr 2008, 12:22 am

I have conversations in my head a lot. Sometimes it's rehearsing for one I will have to have in the future though.

But sometimes when I'm bored I have full on conversations and I just pretend they are real. Sometimes they SEEM really real. Like it's the next best thing to a real one.



markun
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 86

17 Apr 2008, 11:21 am

Is this an aspie/autistic trait? I thought it was just normal. I'm always doing this, having dialogue, narrative, commentary. I also practice what I'm going to say, especially things like in shops or public places where I have to order something. i'll do it over and over again.