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21 Apr 2008, 9:09 pm

Hmm...
Honestly if I was asked that and didn't think about it, I might give the same answer.
But as you said, it wouldn't be accurate. I can converse, but not very well. I can do it if I know what to expect, but since most of the time I don't know what to expect, I'd rather not converse for fear of screwing up.


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21 Apr 2008, 9:24 pm

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As a matter of fact, those answers apply to me to some extent. I just answered what I answered because I was put on the spot and didn't want to appear like an idiot if I spent too much time thinking about my answer.


You shouldn't want to manufacture an answer. If you normally spend too much time thinking about an answer, spend too much time thinking about an answer.

You're supposed to be yourself in these situations, however you seem as though you are wanting to manufacture a response to his question rather than actually explain what you feel.

Because you "don't have anything to say" is not the truth, and because of this he is basing his opinion of you on something that is not true, how can you then complain about his response?



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21 Apr 2008, 9:27 pm

That sounds like an Aspie answer to me. I would see an Aspie specialist.



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21 Apr 2008, 9:31 pm

Pobodys_Nerfect wrote:
That sounds like an Aspie answer to me. I would see an Aspie specialist.


Ditto. Others just don't have enough experience. And many seem to make similar generalizations, "You said this so that means you're not AS" or even "You said this so that means you are AS".

Like others have said, to base the refusal of a dx on a single answer-- or even if it's not a single answer but he uses a single answer as per an example of why he doesn't think you're AS-- that's a danger sign. If you can, find somebody who knows what they're doing. This guy seems to be putting you through pain.


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21 Apr 2008, 9:35 pm

I thought the reason was because you weren't like this when you were young?

Regardless, go to someone else who specializes in ASD's.

This doctor is looking for any reason to say you are not Aspergers. He was putting you on the spot. He doesn't seem to understand the complexities of this particular disorder. If you're so convinced you have it, you probably do.

Now you know what not to say. Go somewhere else. Say the right things and get the right diagnosis that suits you.

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21 Apr 2008, 10:05 pm

equinn wrote:
I thought the reason was because you weren't like this when you were young?



He also mentioned that. The difference between back then and now is that back then I wasn't aware of the effect my awkwardness had on other people and naturally had less avoidant tendencies. But through school I was always teased and my mom insists that I was always a difficult child. I always felt - and was- misjudged. There was and still there is a silence when people learn that I was a good student. It seems that I don't resemble their mental image of what a good student ought to look like, talk like, socialize like and behave like.



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21 Apr 2008, 10:29 pm

Just goes to show you how subjective and imperfect the process for diagnosis (let alone the entire community of shrinkage) is....

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21 Apr 2008, 10:57 pm

I would ask him for a copy of the report he wrote on you so that you can judge for yourself if you think he made other ...not very intelligent reasonings. I believe you have the "right" to such a report.(I am trying to work up the courage to call the person who did DX me out of curiosity of why he thought I was aspie.) I really hope for the day when a more object test is developed.


For those who criticise anyones desire for a "correct" diagnoses. It can be important to understand if certain "traits" you have are caused by brain wiring, psychological factors or chemical causes. It's not about a "label", it's about self awareness and using that knowledge to make educated decisions about how you want to approach traits that cause difficulty in your life. A personality disorder, chemical inbalance or brain wiring are treated differently( or should be). To be "misdefined" can be as counter-productive as treating someone with a low thyroid level as if they were diabetic. Even though they may have over lapping "symptoms", the treatment for each is very different and to get the wrong medication is not only not helpful but dangerious....(speaking from experience.)


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22 Apr 2008, 12:36 am

don't worry about it :) whether you have Asperger Syndrome or not doesn't really matter, because it doesn't change who you are. It just makes a word to describe a part of you. Contrary to popular belief, it's not the end of the world to not have AS. xD so if you do, that's awesome, but if you don't, that's awesome. :D it doesn't make any difference to who you are. :) You might have AS, and you might just be eccentric. Words are just words. Either one could apply, and it doesn't change who you are as a person. You sound very unique, and AS or not, there's only one you, and that's something that makes you special :)



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22 Apr 2008, 12:39 am

I applaud your thirst for knowledge, especially about yourself. :) but I just want you to know that you're okay either way. :)



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22 Apr 2008, 6:35 am

anbuend wrote:
I don't respond well to novel questions either, and I hate being judged for my responses, especially under time pressure, to questions, when the real responses given enough time (which admittedly is sometimes years) would be very different.


Same here, I need time to see what I am thinking and translate the symbols and pictures into what I really mean in words.

I can't believe the diagnostician would judge whether you have AS on just one question, so I am with the previous poster who suggested asking for a report.

You may have PDD-NOS or something else.

The best diagnosis is the correct diagnosis since that is the most useful to you and if you think he is wrong, then again, I too think finding an autism specialist is the best idea.

I will also add that the person that re-assessed me seemed to know very quickly that I am an aspie and I am inclined to believe that an experienced person who has specialised in this area would be quick to see whats going on and then just get the extra information for confirmatory purposes.



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22 Apr 2008, 9:45 am

I do that too. I got worked up about this yesterday.

Get asked a question and then answer with the first thing that is on my mind. And because I can shot back with something real quick, I will.

I sometimes have to take a day or two, at worst longer than this, to get to my most coherent and complete and correct answer. Sometimes the answer pops up a week after, right out of nowhere. I preferably make decisions like this.

I'm a chatterbox and could slap myself for that sometimes. I just wish my mouth wouldn't open without contacting my brain all the time.


And I said this... twice... before. Get another opinion.

The first psychiatrist I went to see wanted to diagnose me with borderline personalty disorder after 45 to 90 minutes. Now, that sounded quite fishy to me. Especially since I was asked nothing about autism.


On a side note, I thought you as a patient always get your report?


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22 Apr 2008, 9:50 am

It comes across to me that you want to be diagnosed with aspergers instead of being curious if you have it.



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22 Apr 2008, 11:49 am

He diagnosed you based only on that? :? I've never been diagnosed, but from what I read from people here who have, pdocs give hour long evaluations in order to diagnose someone with AS. I'd say your pdoc is rather incompetent.


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22 Apr 2008, 11:56 am

I say you get tested more throughly, and learn to be happy with whatever the results are. :)



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22 Apr 2008, 12:00 pm

SilverProteus wrote:
He diagnosed you based only on that? :? I've never been diagnosed, but from what I read from people here who have, pdocs give hour long evaluations in order to diagnose someone with AS. I'd say your pdoc is rather incompetent.

My last one took a good couple of hours and that was with me already filling out a questionnaire before I arrived and taking three pages of notes!