Is it called something when you freeze up?

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06 May 2008, 9:50 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
it sounds like autistic shut down,more than meltdown-
have a look at the pdf here:
http://www.shutdownsandstressinautism.com/


Yes, that's it. At the end there is a little blurb about autistic shut-down in adults.



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06 May 2008, 10:48 pm

I guess I shouldn't have called it "fear response", but more a fight/flight type situation... where you are stalled between fighting and running (flight)... Maybe you really were wanting to hit and fight back instinctively? at some gutt level? and stopped yourself? just an idea anyway...

I've had something similar happen.. it might have been that she stopped being able to get a reaction from you? you gave up on this person and tuned them out? some people can nag you to the point of this happening where you completely turn off to that particular person? like you will take no more?



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06 May 2008, 11:22 pm

Sometimes when I freeze up I go catatonic and people would be talking to me and I wouldn't respond. They could poke me and I would have no response. Sometimes it is a few minutes but it has lasted about an hour before. It even happens when I am walking and then I would suddenly stop and freeze. People are staring at me and talking about me.



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07 May 2008, 7:01 am

Felinity wrote:
I guess I shouldn't have called it "fear response", but more a fight/flight type situation... where you are stalled between fighting and running (flight)... Maybe you really were wanting to hit and fight back instinctively? at some gutt level? and stopped yourself? just an idea anyway...

I've had something similar happen.. it might have been that she stopped being able to get a reaction from you? you gave up on this person and tuned them out? some people can nag you to the point of this happening where you completely turn off to that particular person? like you will take no more?


I didn't do it on purpose though.



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07 May 2008, 8:11 pm

I liked that article about autistic shut-down. I thought it was strange that the little girl actually fell asleep under stress. But today I suddenly remembered something similar. Years ago I would go to my friends' band practice (punk/rock). They had it in their living room and it was super super loud. For some reason I could never stay awake through the whole thing. I thought maybe it was the secondhand smoke from the pot they all smoked. I've never smoked pot in my life. But maybe I was shutting down from the loud noise. Hmmm...



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21 Dec 2008, 7:59 pm

Odin wrote:
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I felt like that several times b4... but it had nothing to do with people arguing or wanting to tell anyone to get lost or that...

it was like I was just lying in bed and want to get up but can't and suddenly I feel... like... wierd and like in a dream state and I hear like... hundreds of voices and stuff... and when I get put into that "dreaming" state I try all my efforts to break out of it but... I can never do it...


Those were hypnogogic hallucinations, which sometimes occur when your brain transitions to and from sleep.


I've never heard that term before...... did you just make that up?



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21 Dec 2008, 8:09 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
it sounds like autistic shut down,more than meltdown-
have a look at the pdf here:
http://www.shutdownsandstressinautism.com/


absolutely clear and fascinating article kingdom of rats!

i experience these shutdowns on a daily basis which is one of the reasons why i canot work with people and in complex groups. I found the article fantastic and have just sent it to my sister whose son is autistic and while verbal - he too shuts down a great deal. thank you. :D



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21 Dec 2008, 8:15 pm

Well, the briefest diagnosis I got from a psychiatrist was catatonia. But that was years ago and I never understood the word.3 I'm going to get a better diagnosis soon.



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21 Dec 2008, 8:26 pm

I always thought of it as shutdown rather than meltdown.

Like Felinity mentioned - 'Flight, Fight or Freeze' - Freezing would be a loss of cognitive abilities under acute anxiety or stress. Like 'playing dead' until the danger passes.

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Our body's natural alarm system (the fight-flight-freeze response) can be activated when there is a real danger, such as coming across a bear when hiking in the woods. In this case, you may flee (e.g., run away from the bear), freeze (e.g., stay still until the bear passes), or fight (e.g., yell and wave your arms to appear big and scary).

But this response can also happen when something simply feels dangerous, but really isn't, such as being interviewed for a job. For example, you may feel jittery, on edge, or uncomfortable. You may snap at people (fight) or have a hard time thinking clearly (freeze). These feelings can become overwhelming enough that make you want to avoid doing the interview (flight). Many people stop doing things or going places that make them feel anxious.


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21 Dec 2008, 9:44 pm

I lean more to calling it sensory overload. When it happens to me I am still aware I just loose handle on 'the controls' so to speak. It often happens when I'm in a crowd of people.



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21 Dec 2008, 11:15 pm

I refer to it as just "zoning out".

I think it's a self-preservation tactic...well for me anyways :wink:....keeps me from melting down completely or choking the crap out of someone who probably deserves it at the time.


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22 Dec 2008, 12:07 am

It happens to me when I'm very stressed, usually sensory or planning-related stuff. It's not a "trapped" feeling for me, though; it's more like I can't figure out how to move, nor really have the initiative to move. It doesn't last long, never longer than five minutes and usually only a few seconds.

Oh, KoR, your link was extremely interesting--I get a weak version of the same effect they describe when I try to do schoolwork without a proper plan in mind. Even if I'm very well rested, I can easily end up tired and falling asleep on top of my work! I never connected it to the tiredness I get when I'm overwhelmed by the usual stressors, but the way I tend to hibernate to get rid of stress, it makes sense that maybe sleep could be a response to stress.

Do NTs get sleepy if they have to do schoolwork and don't know where to start? Surely they must; isn't that part of what "boredom" is?


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