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15 May 2008, 8:32 am

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The most common thing I hear from my boyfriend is, "It don't work like that." "It don't work." last night, he said, "I'm cooking me some breakfast." He uses other bad grammar I can't think of right now.

Oh yeah, a few days ago I picked up the suspenders I gave him from work that was from lost and found asking him about them because he has never worn them yet and he said "One of the straps don't work."


That's EXACTLY the kind of bad grammar I HATE HATE HATE!! !


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15 May 2008, 8:35 am

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I have a very obvious Upper-Midwestern accent.


Upper-Midwestern YANK accent.


Now see, you have the advantage here because the north american continent is in the upper west, as far as most maps of the world I see go....
... but something snaps inside when I hear Yanks going on about their country as though it comprises the whole of existence.

Well it doesn't.
And for what it is worth I can only vaguely tell the difference between western, middle and eastern Yank accents. The range there is pathetic, unlike the variety we have here in Britain, all within a very short spacial range.



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15 May 2008, 8:39 am

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I don't like the word y'all, its annoying becuase southern people use it as a cure all for the different form of "you", then they change that into, y'allses, all y'all.


I've read that "Y'all" may be evidence that the 2nd Person Pronoun ("you") is splitting into singular and plural forms, with "you" being used when addressing a single person and "y'all" being used when addressing two or more people.

This also existed in Medieval English, "thou" was singular and "you" was plural


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15 May 2008, 8:42 am

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Odin wrote:
I have a very obvious Upper-Midwestern accent.


Upper-Midwestern YANK accent.


Now see, you have the advantage here because the north american continent is in the upper west, as far as most maps of the world I see go....
... but something snaps inside when I hear Yanks going on about their country as though it comprises the whole of existence.

Well it doesn't.
And for what it is worth I can only vaguely tell the difference between western, middle and eastern Yank accents. The range there is pathetic, unlike the variety we have here in Britain, all within a very short spacial range.


A friend of mine who stayed in England for a while said that the dialects of people in the far north of England sounds like something out of the Middle Ages, they even still use "thou"! !! 8O


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15 May 2008, 8:57 am

My grammar sucks! My main enjoyment of WP is that I can ask questions here and not get ridiculed by my grammar. :-) When I was doing research papers I'd type them then reprint them and then skim them for errors and then fix and reprint it again. :-) So while my grammar sucks here and on research papers, since writing a research paper is one of my obsessions I focused on getting my thoughts on the computer and not captials or comma stuff!! :-)



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15 May 2008, 9:10 am

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A friend of mine who stayed in England for a while said that the dialects of people in the far north of England sounds like something out of the Middle Ages, they even still use "thou"! !! 8O

Well no... they don't quite.
I think it was just confusion caused by the fact that they do however pronounce things very oddly... especially the Geordies, and the various Yorkshire folks.
Not quite as bad as the Glaswegians though. My father was Scottish, and his entire side of the family are from Edinburgh... so I can put on that accent fairly well AND understand it fluently, but I can't for the life of me understand a full-on Glaswegian accent.


Thing is... accents in Britain are very distinct even from one city to the next. Heck, there is even a notable difference between Swansea and Cardiff accents in South Wales... and it takes less than an hour to get between them on the train.


As for me?
Not sure. I speak with whatever accent I feel like at the time, and it doesn't tend to stay one way for long. I'm just me...
I suppose it would usually be BBC English with a variable half-cockney edge and the occasional use of Lancastrian (from my mother and Nan) or Edinburgh (from my father) terms.



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15 May 2008, 9:50 am

I do not like bad grammar or bad English, but I usually don't say anything. For the purposes of humour and irony, however, it can be fun. I'm not such a stickler about it as others might be.

example: "The badder's the villain, the gooder's the movie."



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15 May 2008, 9:59 am

I've met some of my relatives from Grand Rapids, MI. To them, we sound British! :lol: To us, they sounded like every vowel was drawwwwwwled and flattened out. Obviously I have a Canadian accent, more specifically an Ontarian accent. Yes, we have regional differences in speech here in the Great White North, as well.



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15 May 2008, 10:52 am

I don't usually complain about poor grammar, but I usually think less of the person who is speaking/writing. I tend to be pickier about word selection. I have a hard time in conversation when the person I'm talking to agrees with me using words that mean the same thing to them, but something different to me. I end up trying to convince them that their word is wrong - and they try to convince me that their word means the same as mine.

As for dialect, my birthplace is along the line between Coastal Southern and Midland. People from the north tend to think I have a southern accent whereas people from the south do not.

I read somewhere that Aspies commonly change their dialect to match the person their talking to. I have someone in my family that does that. Sometimes they even change dialect based on the person/people they're talking about.



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15 May 2008, 11:23 am

Yes. I even once heard a girl talk in letters and I wanted to smack her and tell her she needed speech therapy. It's sheer laziness. I won't even watch CSI anymore because they seem to have trouble saying long words. For goodness sake, Mr. Grissom, would it kill you to say decomposition? I want to stab that girl in the phone commerical.



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15 May 2008, 11:28 am

One thing about the way most Hoosiers speak really annoys me: They constantly mess up 'perscription' with 'subscription'!

As for the rest of the whole grammar issue, yeah, it annoys me as well. Grammar is something I've always excelled in and whenever people speak like trash, that's the way I perceive them.



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15 May 2008, 11:33 am

Have you ever had someone whom you like & respect speak poor English? I have, and I do. It's a brain-squeezer to hear an successful, intelligent, supposedly well-educated person say things like, "Youse guys," "Go to the libary," and my favourite,

"You're not doing too shithawk, are ya?"

You just have to accept other people's quirks. Kind of like how we insist that they accept ours.



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15 May 2008, 12:15 pm

I don't mind, mainly because my grammar's terrible.

But here's a quote: "I am the King of Rome, and above grammar" - Emperor Sigismund. That guy had it right. :)



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15 May 2008, 12:29 pm

It doesn't really bother me that people use bad grammar when speaking. Specifically, though, what drives me crazy is hearing people use the word "I" instead of "me" as a direct object. I've even heard people use "me" as a subject instead of "I".

Also, I don't like the amount of abbreviations that are used today in e-mails and other computer related messaging. I have trouble figuring out what many of them mean.



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15 May 2008, 1:03 pm

Why is it that so many people assume that just because you can't type well it mercenarily means you're stupid? My skills in the English language may leave much to be desired. English is not my first language. I’m doing the best I can, so please don’t judge my intelligence by my lack of grammar and vocabulary.

There are also people who find letters difficult, and they aren’t stupid either. It's just like saying nonverbal autistics are stupid because of their lack of speech.

Using "words" like "u" and "r" is a different matter entirely, however. It's nothing other than laziness, and annoys the crap out of me as well. I’m just saying you shouldn’t think less of someone for not being as good at your language.



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15 May 2008, 1:05 pm

darkstone100 wrote:
I don't like the word y'all, its annoying becuase southern people use it as a cure all for the different form of "you", then they change that into, y'allses, all y'all.



LOL - i love that word!! its great! probably cos im english and hadn't heard it before...

no - im not a grammer cop...
the thing i hate most when people speak is if they try to be 'the professor' and choose the most complicated sounding words that are just unnecceary to use in that situation


im very used to english slang and incorrect grammer

just before my brother asked me what im doing tonight -am i going ont' internet... lol
this is because my mother is from yorkshire -(though shes lost the accent and the slang because of living in another county for years) - my gran speaks like it though and they seem to like missing out the word THE... as in 'Put knife int' drawer please' instead of put the knife in the drawer please'

i think its just right to accept a middle ground - and not 'text speak' or 'proper professor'