PSYCHOLOGIST MADE A FOOL OUT OF ME

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Great response.


M.

Part of is that 'Hey! I'm the shrink here! I'll tell you what you have, not the other way around' . You're coming to them for expertise, and instead you're trying to give them the answer. So they treat it like 'a man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client'.

The second thing involves liability; if he accepted your 'diagnosis', then he might prescribe drugs (because that's what the insurance companies want), and if he 'guesses wrong', who gets sued? He does.

Now I'm sure you're right; there might be additional complications that would affect the diagnosis, other symptoms (and only you'd know these), so he may need more info to get a better handle on what's actually going on.

I'd say the person who said to not bring it up is right. And a specialist in Autism in general would be a better judge, and know what to look for. good luck.

Doctors and psychiatrists HATE a patient suggesting something. They will often go out of their way to prove you DON'T have it just because you said you might.

If you're ever trying to get a diagnosis, it's much better to list all your symptoms and let them come up with the answer. Very few will allow you to self diagnose.

I don't know anyone here, but if you've been told you don't have Aspergers or any ASD try for a second opinion. But if you still don't get the diagnosis, you might have to consider you're NOT an Aspie. Many other conditions have similar behaviors/symptoms. Borderline Personality Disorder shares a lot of similarities with Aspergers, so can Bipolar. You might be an NT who has experienced things in life that have made you withdraw and pick up Aspergian traits. It's not something to be upset about, just look for another opinion if diagnosis is important to you, and keep an open mind that you may have something other than an ASD.

A good eighty percent of psychologists are full of pure s**t, while thinking that their own s**t doesn't stink. They can take ninety percent of their personality, employment and intelligence and profile testing and shove them up their ass. They are an arrogant, know-it-all lot when they know barely anything and have no reason whatsoever to be arrogant. They attempt to quantify everything and refuse to admit that there are some things, and some people, that just cannot be quantified and neatly categorized within the parameters of some stupid generic, standardized test.

You're going to have to supply more information concerning said visit.

If you say that you lack nonverbal cues, understanding and showing of, but you so happen to show them, and understand them when conversing to the psychologist, then said psychologist is correct. But if you lacked said cues, and you lacked the ability to understand his, then you're correct. This is just one example.

I agree with Daniel. What kind of tests did he make you do, what questions did he ask and what did you answer? Did you take one of those Aspie quizzes? It's really hard to answer whether the psychologist is full of crap, or whether you're just not an Aspie because we don't know "how autistic" you actually are. I'm a little curious though why you're so angry about not getting the diagnosis...why is it so important to you? Do you just want a label? Are you trying to get disability and you need a diagnosis? Or are you trying to please some of the "you're not diagnosed you're not an aspie" smart alecs on this site?

Except that most psychologists are idiots.

Heck, I know more about AS than most psychologists.

THAT IS FREAKING SAD.

The same happened to me, a short time ago.

Now I'm convinced that only a professional with a large experience with AS or autism can diagnose me. I strongly suggest that you don't lose you time (and money) with this kind of people again.

Good luck.

Last edited by dr-zero on 25 May 2008, 6:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

Seek a neurologist. If the neurologist says you don't have AS then you don't. Who is paying for all of your visits?

True.

Also, MW99, there could be something up with you but don't try to push for something you are not just because it may seem better than what is actually wrong.

Are you being misdiagnosed? Possibly but my gut instinct tells me that you don't really want to figure out what's going on with you but instead are pushing for a diagnosis that you want and I am glad that people will put their foot down and say no you don't if you really don't.

I'd think you were lying to me if you read the DSM and sounded as if you were repeating what you had read then be insulted that you lied to me.

A neurologist would be able to tell.

BTW 2 things...

1. Daniel IS right! Just saying you have a match doesn't make it so. If it was THAT simple, NOBODY here would suggest a doctor.

You should tell him/her the SYMPTOM and go from there! If you had a bolt tightened on a brake, needed a professional opinion, and couldn't have him/her touch it, WHAT is better? a. I tightened the bolt? b. I tightened the bolt's to x pounds of torque, and HERE is a picture of what the caliper looks like? OBVIOUSLY, 'b' is better because maybe a lock washer was needed, and you forgot it, maybe you missed a bolt, and how could he/she determine how much force you used?

Likewise, you're judgment of social issues is messed up. THAT is a given because you either think it is messed up when it isn't, or it is messed up as you think it is.

2. And this is basically the same as #1 but at a higher level.... If I were going, I wouldn't want to suggest AS. The goal is to get HIM/HER to suggest things. Suggest the SYMPTOMS(as shown above)!

If he/she says AS, GREAT! If you think his/her assessment is wrong, ask "But what about ..."? THEN ask about AS. Maybe that person didn't know about AS or something. Maybe they missed something.

I have two problems that ARE AS related. If I have AS I could be expected to have them, and they could HURT an AS diagnosis!

a. I get NERVOUS and will forget even the most obvious things at time. If I don't write it down(Many here have suggested one SHOULD write things down for this.), I am bound to forget THE most important thing!

b. I tend to ramble, as I have HERE! Some times OTHERS forget the main points and assume something else. I have ACTUALLY known people that, after hearing a thing such as this, might tell me how to fix my brakes!

I don't know if I have AS or not. What I do know is that I have certain personal characteristics and mental capabilities that seem unusual and problems with social relationships that are common with AS people. I don't know why it should be important that these should be officially labeled as being AS. A psychologist friend of mine assured me that I do not have AS with no testing. An online test indicated that I might possibly have AS. I really don't need an official label to tell me that I have problems. I am not looking to change my personal characteristics (if that were possible) and am happy to remain as I am. I can freely speculate to myself as to my condition and am not disturbed either way.

I am not angry at not getting the AS diagnosis. I am angry at the fact that my suggestion that I could have AS was quickly dismissed. No tests were done, nothing.



I am interested in receiving the right diagnosis because I want to receive the type of therapy that might actually work for people with my "problems."



No. You could call my "problem" whatever you want, as long as I get the help I need.



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Your ability to persuade and convince doctor you have it was probably much of the reason he felt you did not have it.

Go somewhere else. Seek a couple different opinions. If they are ALL saying the same thing, then maybe you do have some traits (like many of us) but aren't severe enough to be diagnosed with Aspergers.

equinn

I once went to a so called "proffessional" child physcologist. The second I mentioned Autism he immediatly said that I didnt have it....I didnt even directed it towards me.
Then he goes lecturing about how Autistic people cannot communicate with other people.
Honestly, it saddens me why these people even think of calling themselves Proffessionals.

Edit:
Wow, I just realized. My own family cant tell the difference between Mental Retardation and ASD. Saddens my own point even more.

hmm..I can be a little blunt and seemingly cold at times. I apologize.

I started to think about it in another light.

What if mw99 is in a place where professionals don't think you have something because it's not the worst case?

What if mw99 feels like he has to specifically ask about AS in order to get the right evaluation?

I've known a few people that studied psychiatry because their parents pressured them to go to college and it was easier than calculus.