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27 May 2008, 1:44 am

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If someone told me about everyone not liking bad surprises like a tire blowing on the side of the road. I would say "yeah but do they get anxiety about it, have a breakdown, feel panic, act like it's the end of the world, instead of just remaining calm and taking one thing at a time and they can concentrate on something else like reading a book or playing their game boy or listening to music while they are waiting for help. But me when my plans get ruined or something unexpected bad happens, I have troubles moving on, focusing on something else and ignoring the problem for now like everyone else does. All day long I would feel uncomfortable, discomfort because my plans were ruined, while everyone else goes "Oh well sh** happens" and change plans, and not be real bothered about their plans were ruined but they might be disspointed but not be so upset they can't calm down, and all day long they are feeling uncomfrtable, anxious."
That's the different between us and normal people.


I'm sure there are many NTs who would feel the same. Not every NT just takes all problems in their stride and I'm sure a blown tyre or whatever problem would stress out a lot of people. I had a blown tyre just the other day, I stayed extremely calm. I have always been a person who can stay calm in a very serious situation yet I will overreact and stress because of a comment by a friend (see my "Should I be upset by this" thread for example). Not all NTs are the same and not all Aspies are the same, so you will find plenty of NTs who will say "that happens to me" for lots of autistic behavior.



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27 May 2008, 12:49 pm

I went to my first psych visit a couple of weeks ago.... and then I stayed away from WP because I didn't want to rant about her, because she was a really nice person.... but now I have to share a bit....

because she used that sentence.... within the first 15 minutes of meeting her.... and it pissed me off... enough that I was holding back tears throughout the rest of the visit... and then couldn't form logical linear sentences for the rest of the session.... which led to her not getting even a quarter of what I had wanted to share with her....

So yes I understand this issue.... I also understand the dichotomy of another person on the spectrum doing it and a NT doing it. What I wanted to tell the psych and never did was... well, what percentage of the time does it take for this to go from "normal," "everyday" to AS, and how does it effect that "normal," "everday" person's life compared to what it does to mine. But I couldn't, because I don't cry in public, and it was taking everything I had not to do it in front of her.



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27 May 2008, 1:35 pm

kit...I had a similiar experience with my GP and I was in tears. I think the reason it was so painful is that it makes you feel discounted...like the pain you are in is not real because ..."everybody has that problem and they are dealing with it fine"...what amazes me is that the people saying it seem to have no awareness that they are being insensitive (where are their amazing powers of empathy that we supposedly lack??) Can't they see that it is the same thing is someone who is blind and someone says..."Yes, sometimes when I am in a dark room, I have that problem too".... 8O

I hope you can find someone who understands AS. You therapist could be the nicest person in the world but if they "don't get it" they are going to do you more damage then good. Believe me, I wasted many hours with them trying to get me to socialize more because it is "healthy thing to do" or spent hours explaining to me how my childhood trauma was the cause of all my problems...AS is neurological.


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27 May 2008, 6:56 pm

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Can't they see that it is the same thing is someone who is blind and someone says..."Yes, sometimes when I am in a dark room, I have that problem too".... 8O


Excellent example!


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27 May 2008, 11:21 pm

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krex wrote:
Can't they see that it is the same thing is someone who is blind and someone says..."Yes, sometimes when I am in a dark room, I have that problem too".... 8O


Excellent example!


yes, quite.
i am considering being more 'out' about asperger's lately.

i mean. why should i be more ashamed of AS than my hearing loss? both affect my ability to communicate. both can benefit from simple accommodations and basic understanding. yet i can only talk about one of them... makes no sense.

i'm not going to blab to everyone, but i think when i finally get a job in the pharmacy tech field, at some point (after probation is over, because DUH) discussing it with at least those who are directly above me.


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28 May 2008, 1:02 am

RampionRampage: I agree, I have wanted to "out" myself too. Not to use it as an excuse but to help people understand some of the things I do.

Problem is, so many people don't even know what Aspergers IS and would look blank if you told them. When they hear autistic, they hear ret*d. They may also think you are mentally ill, which nobody would think if you were deaf. We really need some kind of public awareness campaign.



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28 May 2008, 1:23 am

krex wrote:
kit...I had a similiar experience with my GP and I was in tears. I think the reason it was so painful is that it makes you feel discounted...like the pain you are in is not real because ..."everybody has that problem and they are dealing with it fine"...what amazes me is that the people saying it seem to have no awareness that they are being insensitive (where are their amazing powers of empathy that we supposedly lack??) Can't they see that it is the same thing is someone who is blind and someone says..."Yes, sometimes when I am in a dark room, I have that problem too".... 8O
I hope you can find someone who understands AS. You therapist could be the nicest person in the world but if they "don't get it" they are going to do you more damage then good. Believe me, I wasted many hours with them trying to get me to socialize more because it is "healthy thing to do" or spent hours explaining to me how my childhood trauma was the cause of all my problems...AS is neurological.
I know someone who said they had the same problem with noise as me and that it was perfectly normal.But then when a pole dropped only me and a man with LFA seemed affected and then when the man rocked and was upset the rest of the time he was there,the woman was wondering why he was having such a bad day.



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28 May 2008, 2:42 am

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RampionRampage: I agree, I have wanted to "out" myself too. Not to use it as an excuse but to help people understand some of the things I do.

Problem is, so many people don't even know what Aspergers IS and would look blank if you told them. When they hear autistic, they hear ret*d. They may also think you are mentally ill, which nobody would think if you were deaf. We really need some kind of public awareness campaign.


well. i'm testing the waters on thursday with my class. i've been going to night school with these people for over a year and they -know- i'm not ret*d.


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28 May 2008, 3:11 am

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well. i'm testing the waters on thursday with my class. i've been going to night school with these people for over a year and they -know- i'm not ret*d.


Oh well please come back and let us know how that went, I'd be interested to hear the reaction. It probably depends on the people and how much they know about Aspies. A psychology class might be very understanding but a mechanic class might not! I really don't know what people would say if I told them. I think some would actually be relieved to know there's a reason for me being "not all there!" :lol:



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28 May 2008, 3:33 pm

Shelby wrote:
RampionRampage wrote:
well. i'm testing the waters on thursday with my class. i've been going to night school with these people for over a year and they -know- i'm not ret*d.


Oh well please come back and let us know how that went, I'd be interested to hear the reaction. It probably depends on the people and how much they know about Aspies. A psychology class might be very understanding but a mechanic class might not! I really don't know what people would say if I told them. I think some would actually be relieved to know there's a reason for me being "not all there!" :lol:


Yes, I'd like to know that, too. I once told a friend that I had been tested for a learning disability, and found to have dyscalcula, and she began treating me like a ret*d! It was almost like she had immediately forgotten the two years she had known me.


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