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31 May 2008, 5:50 pm

Suspected Aspraxie here. :)

I've never been ambidextrous, in fact I can't write with my left hand. At all. But my spatial awareness and depth perception have always been horrendous, as have my ball throwing skills and physical coordination. Surprisingly, I can catch a ball fairly well, but my grandad taught me a good trick for catching, and it often works. His dad was a cricketer, btw.

I always bump into things, trip, not notice things that are there and can multitask about as well as a paralysed jellyfish. I also have 'good days and bad days' and have awful handwriting. So yeah.


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31 May 2008, 9:03 pm

Dyxpraxia was what happened to the Klingon Moon in Star Trek: the Undiscovered Country...;) (ok, inside joke, but I couldn't resist...;)

I always thought it was because I was left-handed. Now it makes more sense, I tend to be a little more careful around doors, etc.



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28 Feb 2010, 6:01 pm

I'm 19 and i've got severe dyspraxia what i will never 'out grow'. My main condition is dyspraxia but speech therepists have said i may have a slight form of aspeguer's syndrome because i find it hard to fit in with my peers and get very nervous of a lot of things. But once I get used to people and feel comfortable with them, I find i get along OK, so that isn't too much of an issue. But having dyspraxia is awkward because my co-ordination is terrible. If for example I was in a supermarket, and somebody told me to go upto the cake and biscuits aisle and pick up a pack of digestive biscuits, I would be hunting all over the shop for it, even if I knew the supermarket pretty well, and whe I reach the aisle I want, I would spend a long time looking for what I've been instructed to get. And also, when I'm walking in the town, I walk all over the place, get in people's way, forget where I'm going, or even walk funny. I can't help walking funny - it's just the way I feel comfortable. It's because I keep thinking I might twist my ankle, so I walk with my feet slightly pointing outwards to keep my balance better. It doesn't notice, but I feel it does. Also, I try to look up when I'm walking so that I can direct myself better, but sometimes I feel I have to look down so I know I'm not going to trip over something or tread on something I didn't want to.



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28 Feb 2010, 6:36 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I'm 19 and i've got severe dyspraxia what i will never 'out grow'. My main condition is dyspraxia but speech therepists have said i may have a slight form of aspeguer's syndrome because i find it hard to fit in with my peers and get very nervous of a lot of things. But once I get used to people and feel comfortable with them, I find i get along OK, so that isn't too much of an issue. But having dyspraxia is awkward because my co-ordination is terrible. If for example I was in a supermarket, and somebody told me to go upto the cake and biscuits aisle and pick up a pack of digestive biscuits, I would be hunting all over the shop for it, even if I knew the supermarket pretty well, and whe I reach the aisle I want, I would spend a long time looking for what I've been instructed to get. And also, when I'm walking in the town, I walk all over the place, get in people's way, forget where I'm going, or even walk funny. I can't help walking funny - it's just the way I feel comfortable. It's because I keep thinking I might twist my ankle, so I walk with my feet slightly pointing outwards to keep my balance better. It doesn't notice, but I feel it does. Also, I try to look up when I'm walking so that I can direct myself better, but sometimes I feel I have to look down so I know I'm not going to trip over something or tread on something I didn't want to.

I'm like that at a supermarket too. I can spend ages looking for whole meal bread that's amongst all the white bread, which I can't eat.
When I walk I have to constantly straighten myself up. I lose balance when walking past people too. And I walk very clumsily if the ground is uneven. I looked in front of me when people are passing so it's their fault if they get in my way. You'll be surprised by how many people don't look at where they are going.


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05 Apr 2010, 4:04 pm

I have it.
I could not understand the concept of physical directions until I've reached Grade 10. At all.
I have poor memory of pictures and diagrams. I can replay a movie on my head of myself walking somewhere, relying on visual cues for orientation. I only remember the most minute visual details, though, and have difficulty putting them together in a sensible way.
I've been training my visuo-spatial perception ever since I was a kid, but it's still very poor. I drop and spill things constantly. I've met some other people on the spectrum and they're not as bad at these things as I am.
I also wrote letters backwards as a kid, despite having learned to read very early, which might be connected.
Plus, I constantly mess up left and right, and whenever I go somewhere, unless it's a usual route I take almost every day, I have to stop and orient myself by visual cues.
I have trouble copying down notes from the board. I used to just listen to what the teacher says and copy down that. Now I use a laptop, which is much faster and I can correct any mistake quicky without making my notes look messy. I can write neatly, but it takes forever to write out the letters, and it hurts my hand after a while. My fast handwriting is very, very messy. People have also told me that I hold the writing utensil the wrong way. But that's the only way that feels comfortable for me.
I still ride my bike in a wobbly kind of way, and only take well-known routes when I bike.
And when it comes to sports and dancing... don't even ask.

I think having problems articulating my speech is also related to it; I have that, too.


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05 Apr 2010, 4:15 pm

MathGirl wrote:
I also wrote letters backwards as a kid,

That sounds like a skill.

I suck at sports and I can't aim (throwing stuff into the garbage can)



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05 Apr 2010, 6:11 pm

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DyspraxiAsperger's topic

I am more than clumsy. I have such severe co-ordination problems I cannot drive a motor vehicle and am very slow in jobs that require physical movement. My typing is extraordinarily slow and I cannot multitask. These difficulties have rendered it impossible for me to hold down a paying job as I am not an asset to business, and I have been terminated from most jobs for this reason. I cannot co-ordinate my body with a machine.

The other terminations were layoffs and plant closings.

I am just glad that none of my children have this. :D


Exactly my problem too. I am pretty unemployable but I find if I stay in a state of contant panic I can work at an ok level. Of course this is a bad idea and now I am chronically stressed and panicked, thanks to my time in workplaces... I dont recommend it at all.

Yeah, when I was a child I had great dificulties with spatial, handwriting, manpulating instruments, crossing the road, catching or hitting a ball. My toys used to break in my hands while I was playing with them. I couldnt really feel how much pressure I was putting on them. With gross motor stuff such as riding a bke, or balance stuff, I am ok at those but I feel mentally tired after a walk and feel like lying down to recover from it.

I still cant cross the road without great panic and difficlty.

So it is weird. I seem to have fine motor dyspraxia and spatial judgement problems and problems coordinating lots of little movements. The physical world is a nightmare for me, that is why i spend so much time in books

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05 Apr 2010, 8:11 pm

I can catch and throw a ball ... but I am very, very clumsy. I am ALWAYS tripping over my own two feet, and I constantly run into doorknobs. I pretty much have a constant bruise in the middle of both forearms from swinging them into doorknobs. I just don't realize I'm so close to them.

I'm also very afraid of falling when walking on snow or ice. Paranoid about it, actually. I like to go hiking and can climb up, but have an awful time mentally walking back down a hill. So afraid of falling ... I used to have a very tough time getting onto and off of the escalator, but I'm better about that these days.



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05 Apr 2010, 8:48 pm

floaty wrote:
Thanks for the replies.
So dyspraxics don't tend to have social difficulties at all?
I've tried to google it but haven't come up with anything useful. I'm not very well at the moment so that's not helping.

Dyspraxics can have social difficulties. Developmental dyspraxia interferes with learning and its effects can be pervasive.



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05 Apr 2010, 9:56 pm

Callista wrote:
Common comorbid, yeah.

A lot of us have subclinical dyspraxia--just being bad at sports, being a bit uncoordinated, but not so much so as to actually be diagnosed. A smaller fraction have clinical dyspraxia--the kind where you're constantly dropping things, bumping into things, getting into accidents, tripping over your own feet... I see it a lot more among Aspies than among neurotypicals. It's even part of the geek stereotype. :)



I have all of those, I never heard the word til on here but I know it is me, I played softball because my big sis was first baseman but they wouldn't let me play unless we were winning by alot and then they would only stick me out in right field where I couldn't do any real damage. And I tried REALLY hard to get better and practiced alot, but I never got any better. I could catch the ball and did occasionally catch it and I could throw it really far but just never where it was supposed to go. My coach used to tell me 'a good catch and a bad throw is like taking a shower and putting on dirty underwear'. I thought I would eventually be good because my sister was really, really good (and she's uber-prissy and I'm the dyke, lol) but I never got any better at it.



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06 Apr 2010, 7:12 am

Dyspraxia = bad coordination
Asperger's = autism

Very different things, though dyspraxia is common in Aspies.



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06 Apr 2010, 9:13 am

Asp-Z wrote:
Dyspraxia = bad coordination
Asperger's = autism

Very different things, though dyspraxia is common in Aspies.

While Wikipedia is not an authoritative source, their definition of dyspraxia really dances around (and with) the definition of autism, particularly when it comes to the co-morbids of dyspraxia. Where exactly does one stop and the other begin? Are there a whole bunch of people with dyspraxia that have absolutely zero autistic traits, or is there a huge neurological cloud of grey in the middle?


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06 Apr 2010, 12:03 pm

I didn't learn to walk till I was 2, and was late learning to tie shoelaces and ties. Never did learn to ride a bike. I was the worst in the year at school at all games and PE. Couldn't catch, throw or run far.

I grew out of some of it. I can do long distance running, and pass for normal at the gym.

Handwriting's still atrocious, and slow. Learned to drive at age 30, with much difficulty and stress.

None of this was diagnosed at the time of course. It was back in the sixties. I feel much better now that I understand.



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06 Apr 2010, 12:05 pm

MapReader wrote:
I didn't learn to walk till I was 2, and was late learning to tie shoelaces and ties. Never did learn to ride a bike. I was the worst in the year at school at all games and PE. Couldn't catch, throw or run far.

I grew out of some of it. I can do long distance running, and pass for normal at the gym.

Handwriting's still atrocious, and slow. Learned to drive at age 30, with much difficulty and stress.

None of this was diagnosed at the time of course. It was back in the sixties. I feel much better now that I understand.


I don't think I could do my shoe laces until I was almost 10! I knew HTML code at that age, but I couldn't do my laces! :lol:

My handwriting is so bad the school's given me a laptop to use in classes, so I can't complain :P



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07 Apr 2010, 7:57 am

dyspraxia can have alot of an effect on social skills. I know 3 people who have it and they do not have asd. they have difficulties with socialising.



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07 Apr 2010, 11:29 am

Sydney wrote:
dyspraxia can have alot of an effect on social skills. I know 3 people who have it and they do not have asd. they have difficulties with socialising.
That makes sense. I think the biggest distinction between dyspraxia and ASD is the presence of obsessive interests/repetitive behaviours.


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