Am I an aspie or a High Functioning Autie?

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22 Jul 2008, 2:59 pm

There is no universal definition for either. DSMIV doesn't even have HFA in there, and Asperger's and PDD-NOS sometimes switch places on the spectrum. Everyone can usually agree that classic autism features the lowest functioning on the spectrum, however the rest is pretty much up in the air. Just use whatever term you feel comfortable explaining to people, I've found High-fuctioning autism requires the least explanation.



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22 Jul 2008, 5:33 pm

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Furthermore, only one person in this thread has done anything like what you claim "so many individuals" are doing. Everyone else just stated what they know without any attempt to apply it to the original poster.


I assume you mean me. =X Sorry, I do tend to ramble, and I realized after posting it did seem like I was trying to diagnose the original poster myself, but I was more just thinking aloud from the information the original poster gave. But, I did state at the end of my post I'm certainly no expert and he should get an official diagnosis if he really wants to know. Even if someone on here is a specialist in the field, they'd still need to sit down and talk with him one on one to give an official diagnosis. Sorry again if I came off as acting like I have all the answers. ^_^;;



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22 Jul 2008, 5:49 pm

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MR wrote:

Furthermore, only one person in this thread has done anything like what you claim "so many individuals" are doing. Everyone else just stated what they know without any attempt to apply it to the original poster.


I assume you mean me. =X Sorry, I do tend to ramble, and I realized after posting it did seem like I was trying to diagnose the original poster myself, but I was more just thinking aloud from the information the original poster gave. But, I did state at the end of my post I'm certainly no expert and he should get an official diagnosis if he really wants to know. Even if someone on here is a specialist in the field, they'd still need to sit down and talk with him one on one to give an official diagnosis. Sorry again if I came off as acting like I have all the answers. ^_^;;


Yeah, but I wasn't being critical. Plus, I threw in that "anything like" because I didn't see you as doing quite the same as what he said people were doing.



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22 Jul 2008, 6:08 pm

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It is amazing that there are so many individuals here with the educational training and expertise to diagnose such complicated
medical conditions as Autism and the Autistic Spectrum Disorders...


Well, as I understand it, if we are talking the difference between the two, it's pretty simple and straightforward, and just what ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo noted: when one started talking. And a rather arbitrary and meaningless difference when looking at adults.

Furthermore, only one person in this thread has done anything like what you claim "so many individuals" are doing. Everyone else just stated what they know without any attempt to apply it to the original poster.


Some of us here do actually know a lot more about it than those with educational training. A fair few have the topic as their obsession, so they are going to know a damn sight more than those who have just taken their med exams.


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22 Jul 2008, 6:26 pm

MR wrote:
Zsazsa wrote:
It is amazing that there are so many individuals here with the educational training and expertise to diagnose such complicated
medical conditions as Autism and the Autistic Spectrum Disorders...


Well, as I understand it, if we are talking the difference between the two, it's pretty simple and straightforward, and just what ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo noted: when one started talking. And a rather arbitrary and meaningless difference when looking at adults.

Furthermore, only one person in this thread has done anything like what you claim "so many individuals" are doing. Everyone else just stated what they know without any attempt to apply it to the original poster.


Well, nobody should try to diagnose the OP. There really isn't enough info to even say they are on the spectrum. Frankly, I don't think I would be far wrong there in any case. My gut feeling is that, since there seems to be nothing material stated, the person doesn't have an ASD.

LadyMacbeth IS right in that WE have some experience the doctors JUST DON'T! It is almost like those doctors that prescribe things for me and I tell them DON'T BOTHER. **I** know my likes, dislikes, abilities, disabilities, certain drugs that will/won't work, etc.... better than anyone on this entire planet ever possibly could, including ANY doctor. That isn't any ego, it is just common sense. All of you could say the same, at least to some degree. Likewise, I understand some AS things better than any NT is likely to, even most psychiatrists. Again, many here could say the same.



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22 Jul 2008, 8:42 pm

He already is diagnosed though isn't he? I thought he was talking about not being sure anymore about his diagnosis, not "Am I autistic in some way" but "What kind of autistic am I."



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22 Jul 2008, 8:57 pm

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He already is diagnosed though isn't he? I thought he was talking about not being sure anymore about his diagnosis, not "Am I autistic in some way" but "What kind of autistic am I."


Still, the lack of info is interesting.



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22 Jul 2008, 9:17 pm

Welcome to my World :D
I wanted to make this as a new post because forgotten how to do everything lately.
I seen the psych for follow up from assessment but she didnt want to really tell me the results. She didnt think it would be helpful (I think that what she implying)
Anyway, I am not an Aspie. Just "Autism Autism," she said
I siad "what you mean" "High Functioning Autism?" and she replied no that "HFA's and Aspies are very bright" and I said "what are you saying?" > "that I have classical autism like Kanners or something" and she replied, "no mild autism" in that respect and I said 'relief' and she said I have, "autism throw in learning difficulties and ADD" becuause as she noticed I get very confused.

My son come back from care on the weekend and I told her what trouble I been having with him. Well as she knows him and said he is High Functioning Autism and IQ fallsinto the gifted range, "he is very bright," she said and becuase of that she thinks he is out smarting me and she suggested she would get in contact with a few people in the case of 'neglect' :roll: to get him into to care for the school week and he can come visit me on the weekend.
I dont know if thats a good thing Ive already had child family welfare involved I dont want a case against me and she said "no not to dampen my name"
I am very complex and so too is my son, and she was saying that she knows and that others know I am doin my best.
So is all this a good thing, anyone? I dont know. I dont want welfare involved I could lose him for good this time.



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22 Jul 2008, 10:18 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
Still, the lack of info is interesting.

Why do you think so? I mean that to be asked, not rhetorically. What makes you interested? Is it because it's unusual here? It's out of convention for this sort of thread not to list everything, but most of them are undiagnosed people asking to have their suspicions validated so this is a different kind of thread entirely anyway (I think). And maybe even he's looking for validation that he isn't autistic at all so he prefers your answer; I don't know.

If I were talking to someone who knows how I was diagnosed and I wanted them to see if maybe I'm not that after all but am something else similar, I wouldn't tell them everything I have in common with both disorders because it's already been stated by my diagnosis.



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22 Jul 2008, 10:24 pm

What are you on about :roll:



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22 Jul 2008, 11:29 pm

LUCY you are ahead of me in post amounts already and I started before you too :P



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22 Jul 2008, 11:49 pm

Yeh :D
Whatever I do once I start I cant stop.
Stop me some one 8O



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23 Jul 2008, 12:04 am

Zsazsa wrote:
It is amazing that there are so many individuals here with the educational training and expertise to diagnose such complicated
medical conditions as Autism and the Autistic Spectrum Disorders...


You have a point - but when the medical community catches up I will have more faith in them. Repeatedly, they admit ignorance... so where does one go? Skepticism is healthy; being dismissive of others isn't.

Nothing in the OP indicates being on the spectrum specifically to begin with; cannot make any sort of guess as to where you would lie in relation to the given frequency for certain symptoms for each diagnosis. Based on the diagnostic criteria, HFA and AS are not the same thing. A lack of information is interesting in that it can be used to influence an outcome as much as tainted information - it makes things difficult. The general lack of information relevant to the question asked is curious because it make me wonder if I understand what is even being asked.


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23 Jul 2008, 12:09 am

Well all she ahs really clarified to me is that defintely autism, like she said my son definetly on the autism spectrum but she said he is 'high functioning' and when I ask am I an aspie or HFA. She says 'no' definetly autism but not the kind where you sit in the corner and rock. Anyway she's lost me but really knowing...
does it change anything. Im still the same person without or with out a diagnosis.



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23 Jul 2008, 12:10 am

The reason I asked this is because I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome when I was 5-ish, but I seem to growing out of many of the symptoms as I get older. However.... When I got my piano about 3 years ago, apparently my AS/HFA (?) came out in the form of mind blowing musical
talent! I just don't know anymore.....



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23 Jul 2008, 1:03 am

SIXLUCY wrote:
My son come back from care on the weekend and I told her what trouble I been having with him. Well as she knows him and said he is High Functioning Autism and IQ fallsinto the gifted range, "he is very bright," she said and becuase of that she thinks he is out smarting me and she suggested she would get in contact with a few people in the case of 'neglect' :roll: to get him into to care for the school week and he can come visit me on the weekend.
I dont know if thats a good thing Ive already had child family welfare involved I dont want a case against me and she said "no not to dampen my name"
I am very complex and so too is my son, and she was saying that she knows and that others know I am doin my best.
So is all this a good thing, anyone? I dont know. I dont want welfare involved I could lose him for good this time.

If you have access to suitably qualified legal advice, you should seek it (perhaps there is a community law centre, or citizen's/community advice centre that could help with access to suitable advice). I honestly think (with it entailing your child's living arrangements, and having the scope for far-reaching outcomes) it's too big and complex of an issue to not get suitable advice from someone with legal knowledge relevant to your circumstances.