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Zsazsa
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25 Jul 2008, 1:49 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
Valium; it has a long half-life (24 hours), it works within 30 minutes, and it's a relatively "mild" and common sedative.


Valium is used as anesthesia during surgery...it is not a "mild" sedative. In fact, medical physicians do not like keeping patients
on Valium for a long time.



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26 Jul 2008, 6:08 am

Thanks. I'll probably try SSRI's. I think valium would be just as bad as my current method, which is alcohol.



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26 Jul 2008, 6:23 am

Put @ sleep with som morph n Herion
Peace she finds with Love
RIP in my arm
I'm in heaven..
Love



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26 Jul 2008, 6:28 am

screw meds, seriously dont.
go to your local health food store and get an herbal or homepathic remedy for anxiety, much more effective no prescription non toxic no side effects.



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26 Jul 2008, 6:29 am

Zsazsa wrote:
Valium is used as anesthesia during surgery...it is not a "mild" sedative. In fact, medical physicians do not like keeping patients on Valium for a long time.


Well, it's used in combination with other sedatives for sedation; it's not the main form of. Its muscle relaxant properties as well as anti-anxiety effects are what it's used for; other sedatives are used to induce the hypnotic state. This is only for basic procedures, not General.

It's a mild sedative compared to anti-psychotics, which work better, but they have far greater side-effects.

Of note, when you cease taking SSRIs, your symptoms come straight back, which is classed as physiological dependence.

When taking drugs, it's best to way up the positives and negatives. In my case, I have Autism, so it's basically torture each day that I'm awake, so I need something to dampen my senses and alleviate anxiety.



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26 Jul 2008, 6:47 am

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26 Jul 2008, 6:51 am

SIXLUCY wrote:
Hell Baby She keeps comin back to me
The Mothr f**** wont let this lil girl rest

HA HA HA LOL like they always do
TRUMAN SHOW*TRUE
Been a joke my whole f**** life
Ever since the mother f**** took stars
Maybe 4, maybe 5 but lil girls dad really died
My Dad I love..
He is my real dad?? Right
No.. he's just so nice to you cas all lil girls need thier daddy

Especially stupid lil girls.. so slow
with stars in thier eyes
Until he tells you NO Dont ever call me..
Daddy
Im not..
I hate you with all the f**k in my life
You stupid f**** up lil gal

Who am I..
A Freak
n any love is better than none
come n get Come n get..
You stupid f**** up lil girl
With hands round my throat
All you can do is smile
or scream the Mothr f**** hell
Til he nails the duck to the wall
Smashed her out as well
HELL.. Where am I..
Who am I >
HELL
Burn to death as well


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26 Jul 2008, 6:54 am

taking citalopram for depression and anxiety take a while to kick in been on it for 2 months now.



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26 Jul 2008, 8:07 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Zsazsa wrote:
Valium is used as anesthesia during surgery...it is not a "mild" sedative. In fact, medical physicians do not like keeping patients on Valium for a long time.


Well, it's used in combination with other sedatives for sedation; it's not the main form of. Its muscle relaxant properties as well as anti-anxiety effects are what it's used for; other sedatives are used to induce the hypnotic state. This is only for basic procedures, not General.

It's a mild sedative compared to anti-psychotics, which work better, but they have far greater side-effects.

Of note, when you cease taking SSRIs, your symptoms come straight back, which is classed as physiological dependence.

When taking drugs, it's best to way up the positives and negatives. In my case, I have Autism, so it's basically torture each day that I'm awake, so I need something to dampen my senses and alleviate anxiety.


I respect your opinion because you sound like a reasonable and intelligent person. But in my experience SSRIs do not cause addiction, they may cause dependence but this is not addiction. Addiction is when you have to increase the dose to get the same effect. This does not happen with SSRIs in my experience. Temple Grandin mentioned in one of her books that a tricyclic antidepressant has helped her sensory issues, perhaps you should try one of these, if you have not already?



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26 Jul 2008, 9:34 am

There's a few types of addiction: mental, which is the "down" or "up" feeling people like; physiological, where your body adapts to the dose at a certain level, and you may need to go higher for the same effect (I've noted that it's usually the sedation effect that vanishes with Valium; the anti-anxiety effect stays the same--this goes back to mental addiction and the "down" feeling), and when you stop taking them, the symptoms come straight back, which happens with all drugs for chronic disorders.

Xanax is quite addictive due to its really short half-life, which in turn gives it a potent "down" in an instant.

I'm on an SSRI, plus the sedative when I'm feeling particularly anxious--I've taken Valium for a month at a high dose, and I stopped in an instant, and I experienced no negative effects other than the anxiety [from the external environment] coming back (I was having a bad month). Whereas, each time I've attempted to stop the SSRI, my overwhelming level of anxiety comes back, and this anxiety is helped by the SSRI. I just take Valium on my bad days, or when I have to go out into the world. I've been on Valium for...a couple of years now, and no professional has said anything, other than wanting to give me more drugs (I think mood stabilizers are the current trend for high levels of chronic anxiety).

The SSRI helps keep the overall anxiety level down, but the sedative is what makes me feel comfortable, and makes living somewhat bearable. I'm addicted to the former [as I need it to keep my anxiety threshold down], not the latter.

I also have a natural tolerance to sedatives due to the ASD, which is ironic.

The fight or flight response isn't my problem, so Tricyclic drugs won't help; I need a CNS depressant, which dampens the external environment.



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26 Jul 2008, 9:53 am

All that makes sense. Thanks for replying and reading my post. I've only taken Xanax which in my opinion is not a good drug. SSRIs generally didn't do any good for me because my anxiety tends to be reactive and related to sensory overload as much as anything.



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26 Jul 2008, 9:56 am

Sedatives (usually ending in -zepam) can be addictive, be careful. Sometimes antipsychotics can be used off-label for this purpose.


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03 Feb 2010, 7:04 am

hmmm

medication is a grey area whether it's neurotypical or autism related. I would strongly disadvise the anxiolytic types of drugs such as xanax: not only are these addictive and they will make people go completely innactive and lifeless (okay so i'm stating the obvious). i live in the UK, as far as i know doctors aren't too keen on dispensing these kind of meds to society at large...

As for antidepresants, yes, i've been on a few types. because the onset time (and offset time for that matter) of these SSRI antideppresants is so long (weeks to months), it's pretty difficult to exactly gauge the effects. apparently, it's called "serotonin syndrome" when you've taken these for a few too many years (anxiety, palpitations, inbalanced libido to say the least)

am blabbering on I know... hope that might have been of some interest

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03 Feb 2010, 1:26 pm

Try some exercise, cut down on the sugar/carbs and chew slowly


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04 Feb 2010, 3:43 am

aspiemom1 wrote:
i have run through several meds. Celexa (never worked for me) buspar (same) effexor xr (worked great, but for depression in combination with anxiety-also VERY EXPENSIVE) but clonipin worked the best for me when it wasnt a 100% of the time anxiety attack.


I'm currently taking Effexor XR and Xanax ret*d (and Seroquel XR and Propranol), Effexor XR doesn't seem to do much with me (well i'm just taking it for 8 weeks now though). Thankfully here in the netherlands all meds (except benzo's) get paid for by insurance.



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04 Feb 2010, 3:47 am

Although I'm doing it I would not recommend anyone to go on benzo's longer then 2 months. I will also ask my dr. to stop Xanax ret*d and perhaps switch to a low dose (1 mg) of klonopin (I used to use 4 mg of that stuff). I think for aspies a great day schedule is the best thing you can ever do for yourself, it will make anxiety/fear become a lot less.