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29 Jul 2008, 11:46 pm

I was speaking in general terms from what I noticed here



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29 Jul 2008, 11:50 pm

Fair enough; there are those who feel they are superior... and there are those who feel inferior. I don't really agree with either... just different strengths and weaknesses. I just didn't understand why that came up when the topic was whether one finds the idea of that perspective boring... not inferior. Again, not being prattish, it just confused me.


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30 Jul 2008, 12:06 am

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so what is the problem you see?
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None, none whatsoever. You keep right on being you, and I'll keep right on people-watching (it's a habit I formed long before I knew I was an aspie).


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30 Jul 2008, 12:12 am

*chuckle* Me, too. It helped to learn how to mimic along the way... here, I just don't care to restructure everything that comes out into less verbose forms - I just prattle on. Enjoy the scenery! :wink:


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30 Jul 2008, 12:24 am

Kilroy wrote:
no every time I see aspies slandering NT's, its no excuse
most of the NT's that hurt them probably had no idea what AS is
they were just fallowing the crowd
my parents, my best friend-NT's
there is no excuse to pick out a whole bunch of people just because of a few bad apples
that's called fascism

all the NT's who have made fun of me had no idea I had AS-I was just weird to them
they don't know
I don't throw the fact I have AS as an excuse to slander people
you do that your no better then them


All well and fine, you've accepted the NT way of thinking, and understand the situation. I've come to accept their ways as well. However, there are some who don't want to/unable to accept the fact that NTs have the ignorance, and therefore are somewhat excused. Not everyone with AS is in the position of acceptance... Before I knew, I definately wasn't in that place. Ignorance is on the AS side as much as it is on the NT side, it's the only way I can see how this happens, the superiority/inferiority thing. Lack of understanding.

I completely agree with the last paragraph, the last 2 lines.


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30 Jul 2008, 2:31 am

Of course! What do they do, anyways? I can barely tell them apart...
Very, very few have any grandoise concepts about reality... most are simply content to live, breed, and die.
Simplistic. I hesitate to think of just how rustic and backwards the species as a whole would be without those few eccentrics to push the boundaries.



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30 Jul 2008, 3:59 am

Ishmael wrote:
Of course! What do they do, anyways? I can barely tell them apart...
Very, very few have any grandoise concepts about reality... most are simply content to live, breed, and die.
Simplistic. I hesitate to think of just how rustic and backwards the species as a whole would be without those few eccentrics to push the boundaries.


I also get this sense that most of the people I see are very similar and I am way off at the other end of the field. It's disturbing, the kind of alienation that makes the “other” seem as a uniform mass of identical cardboard cutouts, forever removed and incommunicable.

I find most people boring but they would probably find me boring as well. It's all in the eye of the beholder as to what is trivial and what is profound in life. This thought gives me pangs of existential nastiness that always bite at my heels. Depression makes everyone and everything seem boring to me.



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30 Jul 2008, 5:22 am

mac266 wrote:
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While I can understand your respective frustrations - where in this thread has superiority been implied? In my mind, I do not find relative interest and inequality interchangeable variables. To me, at this stage in my life, it would be bewildering... and in some ways, boring because I do not know if my sense of interpretation and focus would be affected. Would you mind showing me where you are deriving this from in this thread? Not trying to be an arse, but I am somewhat confused by where you are coming from here.


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I think you're replying to me, but it would help in the future if you used the "quote" function so I can be sure.

What I meant was the following, in plain, bold, direct Aspie-speak, from one aspie to another: You write like a geek. I imagine you probably talk like you write, so you undoubtedly sound like a geek, too.

I did not mean to imply that you came off with an air of superiority, and in fact am confused as to how you took that from my post. I simply meant you sound like a geek, and we aspies are often (read: almost always) geeks.

You'll notice my writing style doesn't sound geek-ish. That's a skill I learned when I was about 12 -- how to speak and write like an NT. I got picked on less when I "dumbed down" my speech. Of course, I'm NOT implying you should dumb down; I was simply making an observation.


HEY, I LIKE makuranososhi's writing style! I, ALSO, dumbed down my speech. I have regretted it at times. It is like the movies that have a protagonist that is a female that is smart and feels she must act dumb to get a date. BTW for the record, I LIKE smart women. My original dream was to possibly meet one with strengths that at least compliment mine. that includes intelligence. Maybe part of our relationship could be to make one another better in areas where we are weak.

If writing in such a manner is geekish, then calling one a geek is a compliment!

One more thing. I ALSO never implied superiority, etc... Parts of my post may have appeared that way, but I said THEY have the SAME opinion about my life, and that I at times envied theirs. I think my post was well rounded. I apologize if my example seems to imply they are childish. I tempered THAT as well. I simply have a few moments where I SEEMED NT, etc... I know thy didn't REALLY accept me like that, and I couldn't enjoy it for very long but, for a few hours, I DID!



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30 Jul 2008, 8:42 am

NT lives are boring enough to NTs! For most of us, they'd be excruciating.


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30 Jul 2008, 8:46 am

Um, not necessarily. That's a strange question from where I stand



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30 Jul 2008, 11:16 am

Yes, my life back when I tried to conform to NT lifestyles was extremely boring. Nowadays, I indulge my interests however weird they may seem to NTs and I have a very interesting life.


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30 Jul 2008, 12:44 pm

roygerdodger wrote:
Right now, my life as an autistic seems boring.
Me too...but I also don't want to change it!



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30 Jul 2008, 12:51 pm

Being someone with AS trying to live an NT kind of life is pretty boring.
On the other hand being an NT living an NT life seems loads of fun.
Basicly i can't imagine how life is for them though.
You have to experience it to actually truely know it.
Our lives obviously seem boring to them as they get by far the greatest satisfaction out of social interaction.
To women buying expencive clothes and having theyr gfs give compliments is more exciting than sex.



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30 Jul 2008, 2:32 pm

Well said.


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30 Jul 2008, 4:07 pm

I don't even understand what 'NT' life is supposed to be like?

Is a neurological wiring a life? Is there something such as AS and/or ASD life?

I'm probably for 'NT' life, whatever it is. I've been growing up with non-autistic people only all my life and think that this life is very interesting and cool.


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30 Jul 2008, 4:23 pm

Thanks, 2U... words appreciated.


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