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02 Sep 2008, 9:47 am

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I had this experience after living in Asia several years. The social expectations of a different culture do not apply to you when you do not belong to that culture. No one expects you to be perfect or to use the exact right social norms. If you screw it up, they correct you gently and explain to you why you are wrong, and exactly how to do it the right way.

When's the last time someone in your own culture did that for you? Never! They expect you to just magically know.

I liked being a stranger in a strange land. I've never felt part of the world I was born into. Being in a different place was so much better! I loved teaching English to children and I loved going into their homes to learn about them. I'm sure they taught me much more than I ever taught them. The only thing that was ever hard was that the parents would always talk to me in the highest honorific because I was a teacher. I had to always remind them to talk to me like I was a baby so that I could understand them. That was hard for them. They were taught that teachers were the highest persons in society.


I share this experience with you!


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02 Sep 2008, 5:43 pm

I have an obsession with Cairo and the Middle East at the moment. I really want to leave Britain and experience a new culture outside the EU. Get away from the expense and the silly English celebrity rubbish. But today I read its 50 degrees and there are 64,000 people per square mile compared to 1,600 in London and its heavily polluted. Plus as a single woman it would be very tricky living in a Muslim community.

Has anyone lived in the Middle East?



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02 Sep 2008, 5:48 pm

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After I graduate vet school I want to move to South Africa. I'll start my own practice in the middle of the bush far away from the pressures of an everyday human society.



Like Precious Ramotswa?
Life in a small dorpie in the platteland and the veld is not as easy as you think it is, it's awfully depressing.

Why don't you move to a small city in South Africa like Mafikeng or Sabie instead?



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03 Sep 2008, 12:09 am

The premise of the this topic is very interesting to me. Does it only apply when you move to a country where the most prominant language is not your own? What if I've lived in the USA my entire life, but then move to a country where engliish is a very prominant language, such as Ireland or Australia?

My friends who are most-accepting of my quirks just happen to be three Peruvian immigrants.


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03 Sep 2008, 12:35 am

Just take into account that as a single woman alone in a Muslim country you'll have to adjust to a lifestyle that may seem discriminatory to you for a woman, what with you coming from an egalitarian society from that point of view.


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03 Sep 2008, 4:59 am

it's true about being accepted with all my differences for being foreigner.

once i've read a book about empathy, and the author stated that every young person should have spent some time abroad, because it makes us more empathic. i thought it was a great idea so when a professor came to the class and asked us who wanted to do doctoral studies in portugal, my hand was automatically up. the others asked about the money, but i didn't care. so i had spent over 5 years in portugal. the last years were, however, quite boring and i felt the need to move on to another country. so once my thesis was completed i was happy to go to france.

i like routine, but i don't mind to create a new one once i change my life completely by moving to another country every few years. it takes only few weeks to settle in new routine. now, i am already looking for second postdoc and sending the applications all around the world. my wish is singapore. i would like to go somewhere out of europe for a while and i want to prove that usa is not the only option in science.

i see myself living like this for another 5-10 years, then i go back to my native country and by the time, i will be a foreigner there too.

although, i am not more empathic than before, maybe even less :)


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04 Sep 2008, 1:51 pm

Flismflop wrote:
The premise of the this topic is very interesting to me. Does it only apply when you move to a country where the most prominant language is not your own? What if I've lived in the USA my entire life, but then move to a country where engliish is a very prominant language, such as Ireland or Australia?

Anyone?

Or if someone has moved the other way (from Ireland, Australia or UK to the USA), what is your take on this?


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04 Sep 2008, 8:29 pm

Bozewani wrote:
PunkyKat wrote:
After I graduate vet school I want to move to South Africa. I'll start my own practice in the middle of the bush far away from the pressures of an everyday human society.



Like Precious Ramotswa?
Life in a small dorpie in the platteland and the veld is not as easy as you think it is, it's awfully depressing.

Why don't you move to a small city in South Africa like Mafikeng or Sabie instead?


Like the Karoo Valley or somewhere where meerkats live. Because cities equl people. I want to be as far away from them as possible.



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10 Dec 2008, 6:46 pm

You can live in Oudtshoorn with the ostriches! They are cool!



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11 Dec 2008, 12:19 pm

I'm British and have lived in Britain all my life, but I love travelling abroad and when I graduate from uni I want to live in New York City. Not just cos I'm an aspie, I didn't actually think about that being a factor. I just think New York City is awesome.


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11 Dec 2008, 12:24 pm

I want to move to Scandinavia.



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11 Dec 2008, 2:14 pm

I'd like to eventually move back to the US someday as a much better place than the UK. Its unpretentious etc



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11 Dec 2008, 2:55 pm

After growing up in various regions of the world and finally settling down in my native country (or trying to) I've learned that that probably will never happen. :lol:

I always wish I lived somewhere else. The grass just seems too green to ignore on the other side.


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11 Dec 2008, 3:13 pm

I completely relate to this. The happiest time of my life was when I lived in Canada for a while (I'm British). I simply explained to people that as a foreigner I didn't know the social conventions and etiquette of Canada, and I asked people to explain them to me and to point out when I did anything wrong. I was accepted as an eccentric English woman - and people actually enjoyed my differences, because they saw them as being interesting cultural differences. It was great.



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11 Dec 2008, 3:44 pm

While I did not go off to escape the NTs I did years ago go off for some time.

Years ago when I was feeling low I left my home and spent some months working in a foreign land becuase I thought that the change of scene would do me some good. I had a great time out there andI was glad that I went out on the busman's holiday.

I gained a seed of an idea which later in life became an obsessive interest which then later turned into a job. One could call it method acting where you eat sleep and drink a subject for months to become an expert in it, I then ended up soem years later getting a job in the field. Is that an obsession or method acting ?


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11 Dec 2008, 6:23 pm

Well, I always felt better with Eastern cultures. My best friends are all African and Asian, with one exception(she is Belgian), but the vast majority of people are of those ethnicites and I feel more comfortable in those cultures.