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02 Sep 2008, 3:35 pm

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I'm an artist also and wonder if this is an added hindrance for those who are. I was put on disability when I was 19 after a near lethal drug overdose. I tried jobs many, many times but always dropped out after a short period of time because of the social stress and strains. The one job I did excel at was working in the vault of the tax assessors office at City Hall researching land ownership deeds. I reformatted the data file so it would read more comprehesively and was valued well and acknowledged for those contributions. The problem was the meaninglessness and mechanical nature of the task. I decided it was a better use of my time to work on my art capabilities and do whatever I could there to develop it. There were hindrances that came along but ultimately was able to accrue a good volume of work in portfolios, though I would have been much more prolific had I not had so much interference from those around me.

I'm finally at a point where I can do something with it and actually sell the reproductions, though there may be another long haul there, it's hard to say. I feel very much for the creative person who also struggles with inherent social challenges and disadvantages as well. I guess I don't really know what to offer, except to acknowledge that it's a difficult struggle, but never give up. Determine what is most desired and do whatever is necessary toward that end.


thank you that was nice to hear from someone.. It is certainly not easy, art is what I'm good at, creating things, not working or slave labouring in some.. ahh.. i cant even think of those things right now.. right now im in trouble becausei quit my job.. luckily this months rent is paid for but next month is in question.. ive put my powerful mixer board up for sale because Im scared I wont find work in time.. not if i continue to feel this way throughout the month.. :cry:



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02 Sep 2008, 3:42 pm

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If you are able to work, you should be working and not drawing disability - which is meant for people who have no choice and cannot work.


I think thats the point aint it..? who determines who is able and who is not?.. Every job ive ever had ive quit without notice because I just couldnt handle it..


But having said that, I hope there's something out there that i can do without losing my way.. id rather not be suicidal. Writing novels, playing music, these things would be optimum if I could find a way to make money off of them.. hopefully one day I can.


Since the application process is long and slow, why not begin it, while simultaneously looking at options that would earn you money without overwhelming you.

I think it's one of the more difficult to see effects of AS, the inability to cope in certain environments. Not just discomfort, but inability. I know it's very real. But hopefully you can find a job in an environment that would not trigger all that.

My husband, btw, quits his jobs every four or five years because he's just "had enough." Fortunately, it is easy for him to find new jobs, he is quite skilled, and he tends to enjoy the new challenges for a few years before the negatives of a place start to wear on him. Since it plays out over 4 or 5 years, it's a liveable situation. But if this cycle is playing out for you much more quickly, it is a real impairment.


Thank you, and I agree.. it's hard to understand whyy someone can't cope in a regular situation.. everything seems fine and dandy.. but it's not.

Yeah I quit my job more often then that.. I was at my last job for about a month and a half or maybe more.. and it would have been shorter if they didnt move me to a different area in between.. :?
The medical system here is stupid.. I called the general hospital to get in contact with someone who could diagnose me for a mental illness and i said autism.. so they re-route me twice and i end up at a phone where im expected to know the extension number for a specific office... :x they dont even give a s**t over there.. i cant even get diagnosed, its not like i havent tried..



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02 Sep 2008, 3:55 pm

If you feel strongly enough that you can't handle a work environment, you can pursue a disability option if you qualify for one. There may be other types of employment you might try also. Something that would be more easily geared to your unique abilities perhaps. Maybe try a vocational agency where you can be evaluated and then placed in a job that would be better suited to you. Being on disability isn't that great either. Along with a limited income, there are long hours where one can deteriorate very seriously if one isn't very careful. Every individual is unique and their needs are also unique. I hope you're able to determine what's best for you soon so you can find peace and resolution sooner than later as well. Persevere, you can do it.



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02 Sep 2008, 3:56 pm

To be honest about it. It sounds like using AS as a crutch but some people can't do things as well. I'm actually in college here and earning a BA along with finding a job as well since I'm going to prove myself that I'm not incapable of anything in this world.


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02 Sep 2008, 3:57 pm

I'm on disability but it's mostly for bipolar I got SSI before I figured out the AS but I think it's my AS and anxiety that keep me from working mostly, not so much bipolar disorder.



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02 Sep 2008, 4:12 pm

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If you feel strongly enough that you can't handle a work environment, you can pursue a disability option if you qualify for one. There may be other types of employment you might try also. Something that would be more easily geared to your unique abilities perhaps. Maybe try a vocational agency where you can be evaluated and then placed in a job that would be better suited to you. Being on disability isn't that great either. Along with a limited income, there are long hours where one can deteriorate very seriously if one isn't very careful. Every individual is unique and their needs are also unique. I hope you're able to determine what's best for you soon so you can find peace and resolution sooner than later as well. Persevere, you can do it.


I hear you.. but finding a job Im okay with is not an easy task.. I'm a great worker, there's usually not anything that i can't do.. it's just coping with the environment.. digging in the dirt all day would be fun ahah.. something like that.. but that doesnt explain what i'd do in the winter.

To be honest I dont need a large income.. Im happy with staying at home and working on my art, music, writing.. and if not i go outside and walk around.. i have very limited social contact but im not completely alone.

Im just wondering whats best for me to do.. it seems that im stuck in a whirlpool and there is not time to stop and think what is best for me as i have little time to find more work.



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02 Sep 2008, 4:13 pm

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To be honest about it. It sounds like using AS as a crutch but some people can't do things as well. I'm actually in college here and earning a BA along with finding a job as well since I'm going to prove myself that I'm not incapable of anything in this world.


I've never used it as a crutch, I just accept after a lot of experience what is doable for me an what is not.. i do have ambitions in life but they do not involve going to school.



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02 Sep 2008, 4:16 pm

I never applied, and even if I did I would be declined in a second.


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02 Sep 2008, 4:29 pm

I think its more difficult to get if you have never worked.......which is called SSI. Disability is for people who have worked and have earned some X amount of money. Im actually thinking about applying because I have been though several jobs in the past 7 years.....some I have quit ,some I have been fired from. I love the medical profession but its very difficult for me to work with other people. I always end up with some major problem with a coworker and I sometimes can have problems with condecending, mean patients.
My Psychiatrist says I need a "solitary" job LOL :lol:
Im actually quite good at what I do (Phlebotomy) but because of my social problems....I cant do it, if that makes sense.



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02 Sep 2008, 4:30 pm

I know what you mean, there wasn't anything I couldn't do and do it very well. The environmental stress though would have taken a greater toll on my physical health because of my nervous system sensitivity, among other things, and another reason why I couldn't handle it.

The bottom line is we have to survive. Making it as an artist is very tough, but it can be done. An education is very helpful there. If you don't already have something viable going for you, then you would have to go to school to develop skills in order to create some means for making a living. To qualify for disability you have to be significantly disabled in some way. The only way to determine that is to go and be evaluated to see whether or not you are. Either way, you would have to go out and do something to further whatever end you desire.



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02 Sep 2008, 4:48 pm

Depending on your level of instability, the best option in that instance may be to check into a hospital to be assessed and evaluated.



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02 Sep 2008, 5:08 pm

I dont wanna go on disability.. it doesn't appeal to me..

i dont need education for my work, I always teach myself how to do things.. mind you that's the hard way to do it, but it's paid off quite well.



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02 Sep 2008, 5:11 pm

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I think its more difficult to get if you have never worked.......which is called SSI. Disability is for people who have worked and have earned some X amount of money. Im actually thinking about applying because I have been though several jobs in the past 7 years.....some I have quit ,some I have been fired from. I love the medical profession but its very difficult for me to work with other people. I always end up with some major problem with a coworker and I sometimes can have problems with condecending, mean patients.
My Psychiatrist says I need a "solitary" job LOL :lol:
Im actually quite good at what I do (Phlebotomy) but because of my social problems....I cant do it, if that makes sense.


Have you thought of medical transcription? I am taking a course in that now... if you have experience in the medical profession you can probably immediately find a work from home job in that.


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02 Sep 2008, 5:16 pm

I could have never applied for disability. If it hadn't been handed to me, who knows what would have happened. In that case, the chances are good I probably wouldn't be here.



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02 Sep 2008, 8:00 pm

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If you are able to work, you should be working and not drawing disability - which is meant for people who have no choice and cannot work.


I think thats the point aint it..? who determines who is able and who is not?.. Every job ive ever had ive quit without notice because I just couldnt handle it..


But having said that, I hope there's something out there that i can do without losing my way.. id rather not be suicidal. Writing novels, playing music, these things would be optimum if I could find a way to make money off of them.. hopefully one day I can.


Well, that is the rub, isn't it? It's a matter of sorting out if it's that you can't do the work, if you need to mature (and it's not your spectrum disorder keeping you from working) and learn how to function in the workforce (it's not something you're born knowing how to do, it's learned), and/or if there's work available that you are capable of doing.

Have you trained for any specific kind of work? You might check with whatever local employment service (I assume there is one that's state-funded and at no cost available to you). If it's an emotional thing, counseling might help. If it truly is a disability-related issue, one of those agencies might be able to help you document that.

Writing is a tough way to make a living, if for no reason other than there are 100,000 people trying to do the very same thing. If you happen to write the great novel, or something catchy, that's great! But you need to have what they call "a day job" in the meantime while pursuing your creative muse. Otherwise you'll both starve and be homeless until that first royalty check comes in.

You might benefit from some serious career counseling, if you've walked away from all your jobs. Perhaps they don't suit your talents? If it turns out that your spectrum disorder truly is disabling to the point where you cannot be self-sufficient, you'll need to have it documented by someone other by you that this is the case. If you try to apply for disability without the paper-trail to prove it, you'll get nothing but the runaround.

Good luck!



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02 Sep 2008, 8:27 pm

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If you are able to work, you should be working and not drawing disability - which is meant for people who have no choice and cannot work.


I think thats the point aint it..? who determines who is able and who is not?.. Every job ive ever had ive quit without notice because I just couldnt handle it..


But having said that, I hope there's something out there that i can do without losing my way.. id rather not be suicidal. Writing novels, playing music, these things would be optimum if I could find a way to make money off of them.. hopefully one day I can.


Well, that is the rub, isn't it? It's a matter of sorting out if it's that you can't do the work, if you need to mature (and it's not your spectrum disorder keeping you from working) and learn how to function in the workforce (it's not something you're born knowing how to do, it's learned), and/or if there's work available that you are capable of doing.

Have you trained for any specific kind of work? You might check with whatever local employment service (I assume there is one that's state-funded and at no cost available to you). If it's an emotional thing, counseling might help. If it truly is a disability-related issue, one of those agencies might be able to help you document that.

Writing is a tough way to make a living, if for no reason other than there are 100,000 people trying to do the very same thing. If you happen to write the great novel, or something catchy, that's great! But you need to have what they call "a day job" in the meantime while pursuing your creative muse. Otherwise you'll both starve and be homeless until that first royalty check comes in.

You might benefit from some serious career counseling, if you've walked away from all your jobs. Perhaps they don't suit your talents? If it turns out that your spectrum disorder truly is disabling to the point where you cannot be self-sufficient, you'll need to have it documented by someone other by you that this is the case. If you try to apply for disability without the paper-trail to prove it, you'll get nothing but the runaround.

Good luck!


This thread was about learning about disability with people with aspergers.. no offense but I hate being talked to like im stupid, I'm not 12 years old. What is a counsellor gonna tell me?.. no one's ever been able to fix me with a thought or a piece of advice.. when I need help I ask a question and I sort everything out myself.. I moved out when I was 17 so do not tell me I'm not mature and thats the reason I cant hold a job.

If your advice meant no harm then Im sorry but I hate to get that out. I dont need anymore advice for this thread. :chin: