The Finding of the Cure: Volume 1

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Ah! Not another one! Yet another self-proclaimed "aspie" amatuer (I don't care if he's gotten his masters) psychologist, with the "think your way normal" approach.
These people are a virus to people like me... Ye gods, man!
This is no new perspective - it's in fact a rather old and long since disproven concept. What is it? Why, will power!
It's not a transformation - it IS pretending!! What's he saying, "don't pretend", and then lists what must be "overcome". Will power, if you are strong enough, can allow you to cover up your Aspie traits to blend in - you can't magically and permanently change neurology!
Some of your suggested traits are character based as a result of neurology and experience; those can be changed so much as habit - turning lights on or off upon enteriing a room, as an example!
Where was this kid schooled...? Anti-scientific approach, information coloured by personal perspective? Those are some very, very junior mistakes!

I hope for his sake this guy opts to keep this largely to himself, and forget about it. This's a career-buster, no mistake.

There is no cure for aspergers, masking it is not a cure it is a way to fit in. I do not wnat ot mask it but I do want to fit in so I try to moderate my behaviour by looking/asking for verbal cues as to what is appropriate behaviour. If on occasion I get this right it is not a cure but a coping mechanism.

What I am sick of hearing is that AS is something special. To those of you that think AS people are more evolved try this one for size, our particular disability makes it difficult to find a partner, therefore it makes it difficult to procreate. This means that natural selection is avoiding us, therefore we are not more evolved in fact the opposite is true, we have undesirable genetics.

Repetion can adapt behavioural symptoms.

Uh... Fernando, innovation does come from scientists, a mathematician could invent the wheel, arbitrary though that is, and discovering fire and being a chemist are not mutually exclusive. What stupid, arbitrary things to say...

So you are trying to erase your personality and mask your 'instincts'? Why?

Interesting you metioned Fight Club, I'm not a big fan of it myself but the anti-superficial message present within it is relevant to modern life. What point is there in pretending? It does not add any substance to our lives.

fernando, there's a lot of deep taboos in your post and I fear that alex would show up and delete the thread, Wrongplanet promotes strongly that Asperger is purely biological or neural condition based on very "surface" scientific studies and theories and rarely tolerates any non-inborn genetic/biological explanation.

All AS' Symptoms are behavioral (this is a fact) and AS is purely diagnosed on its symptoms (another fact) , there's no single medical test that detects AS (a third fact) , the fMRI studies can be much credible while most of their AS subjects are already on drugs described by psychiatric, such misleading study was already exposed for ADHD children (another fact).

More to the point , we can weirdly notice that no AS symptom is biologically-explained yet , not even single one of them. In all real syndromes and conditions , like Down's Syndrome , Tourette's syndrome and William's syndromes for example, most of their symptoms are biologically and medically explained which is not the case for AS and HFA.


I notice something else about the community here , people treat Asperger's syndrome as a form of identity ....ie. Religion or culture! People "with asperger" or "with HFA" here call them selves "Aspies" or "auties", like the people who believe in Islam or Christianity call themselves Muslims or Christians, and they are usually VERY defensive about anything that contradicts or defies their belief.

for more: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt77202.html


I was like them.

People with Tourette's syndrome don't call them "Touries" or people with "William's syndrome" don't call themselves Willies and no one can tell them that their conditions are fake because they are totally biologically proven and their symptoms are totally visible (like physical traits) and totally medically and scientifically explained.


I myself, starting to lean to the explanation that Asperger is totally psychosocial condition , there's nothing biologically different in us , there's nothing wrong or different in our brain

and that's started a while ago:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt56043.html


and I don't trust psychiatry or any psychiatric study:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt78821.html


PS: People yell 'scientologist!' when I attack psychiatry , first I am atheist so I don't believe in god or souls so I will never believe in something silly like souls coming from a dead galactic civilization . Second, I don't live in the US.


PS2: I totally respect psychology , real psychologists help people emotionally as for the psychiatrists ...most of them are f**ked-up hypocrite 'doctors' who wanna sound 'scientific' and wanna make business as long with the f**ked-up psychiatric branch of the pharma industry (antidepressants and stimulant companies) .

Fernando, I find what you've written very interesting.

I'd like to mention a point about your age. The time period of your intense exercises appears to cover your age from early to mid 20's? In my observation, AS symptoms seem to lessen with age in general as many of us find an 'inner NT' we can employ for short periods. And for me that started in my early 20's too. For the first time in my life things started to 'improve'. And I did no exercises - well, not consciously. Maybe what happened to you was simply 'growing up' as much as anything you consciously tried. If you could drop all exercises and still change - then the exercises are doing nothing. Our organisms continually change, without any conscious attention.

The other point would be that you need to continue this experiment for another decade or 6 before you can really say you are 'cured' of something that many do not believe is a disease anyway! I have though myself cured many times......and been proved wrong. I have also thought myself lost without trace...and been proved wrong.

btw I have all the 'symptoms' that you mentioned except the wheel thing.