Weight, Depression, Suicide
CockneyRebel
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some one whants to know the reason im not that fat?
stay off the junkfood expecialy mcdonalds (its to expensive) but thanks to that i
didnt got addicted to it just eat potato's with some regulair flesh once in a day (thats whats over here all the time) its effective enough
go to mcdonalds or any other fastfood place very rarely
I'm not fat, but with my horrible work schedule (which leaves me with little time for anything outside of work, let alone fixing meals), I worry about it. I'm eating far more fast food and TV dinners than I should, but restaurants with real food cost a lot, and fixing my own meals is a substantial commitment if I only have 3.5 hours free (or less, if they make me stay late) after work before I need to get to bed. (frustratingly, I have to pad sleeping time to compensate for frequently being woken up in the middle of the night)
I could try getting less sleep, but that causes me to want to die.
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My intention is to never spam but after getting this in an ad I had received today.. I couldn't resist sharing. I really think there is truth to it. It explains why we feel the need to eat sweets or anything that is just not good for you and with the struggles we have endured in our lives.. it would explain things.
Surely the answer must be a combination of genetic and social
programming.
Note the interesting thing is not everyone is addicted to sweets.
Some people crave salt. But given the figures on diabetes and
obesity, sweet craving is far more common.
The story I told you at the beginning of the email illustrates just
how deeply in our brains the sweet craving is.
People with Alzheimer's and other forms of neurological disorders often
demonstrate "frontal release" which is just a fancy way of saying
that the higher centers of their brains don't work well any more.
Thus their judgment is impaired and their "preferences" for food
may be lodged in the deeper, older and more primitive parts of
their brains.
So take away the part that makes each of us who we are and we still
crave sweets.
This tells me that buried deep within the collective human makeup
is a biochemical response to sweets that says "good" or "reward".
It probably has something to do with brain chemicals like
endorphins, serotonin, and the like.
As a matter of fact it has been shown that highly refined sugary
foods release tryptophan, the forerunner of serotonin, faster than
any other kind.
Hence the truth to milk and cookies as a relaxant.
The other thing I can tell you from observation and personal
experience is that the later you stay up and the more stress you
are under, the more likely you are to crave those quick hitting
carbs to get you through the high stress period.
The brain and body tend to like that fast blast of sugar when they
are in fight or flight stress mode.
With millions of Americans noting the high level of stress in their
lives, and eating becoming something we have to do rather than plan
to do it's easy to see how this stress driven culture O.D.'s on
refined sugars.
The food industry is pretty slick as well. They bury sugar in the
form of cheap corn syrup and others in many forms.
Here are a few examples where industry research has shown that
adding sugar improves sales: bread, spaghetti sauce, cereal,
energy drinks.
Finally, there is the deeply ingrained reward behavior: if you are
good as a child you get a sweet treat.
I have watched conscientious families fight the good fight with
their kids and sugar. They keep the kid away from sugar for the
first 5 years of their lives while they are at home only to find
that as soon as they are school age, peer pressure takes over and
all that hard work is lost.
I have said many times that sugar has damaged human society far
more than any artificial sweetener has or ever could.
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I'm healthy & overweight. Whenever I try to lose weight, I become more unhealthy. I should be eating 2100 calories to maintain my current weight; when I eat any less than about 1900, I become more prone to colds, my menstrual periods are more painful, and my concentration span decreases to a tenth of what it should be. I believe it may actually be that I would score lower on an IQ test while on a low-calorie diet. The same goes for an out-of-balance diet--one with 2100 calories but too much or too little of any given food subgroup over any given period of three or four days.
I also ride my bicycle or walk everywhere I go... resulting in a reasonable amount of exercise.
I could probably lose weight by cutting calories to about 2000. At that rate, I would lose one pound a month and be at my ideal weight in about nine years. That is assuming that I never 'cheat', that my metabolism doesn't slow as I age--as it probably will--and that I keep reducing past 2000 as soon as my lowered weight requires fewer calories.
To benefit from the social consequences of being thin, I would have to lose weight a lot faster. I have calculated that to be at an ideal weight within a year, I would have to eat so little that it would qualify as starvation. I am starting to wonder whether the sheer amount of prejudice associated with being overweight might mean that this is actually the better option, since I may need that extra edge to convince people that I am competent enough to hire, even after I get my degree.
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I also ride my bicycle or walk everywhere I go... resulting in a reasonable amount of exercise.
I could probably lose weight by cutting calories to about 2000. At that rate, I would lose one pound a month and be at my ideal weight in about nine years. That is assuming that I never 'cheat', that my metabolism doesn't slow as I age--as it probably will--and that I keep reducing past 2000 as soon as my lowered weight requires fewer calories.
To benefit from the social consequences of being thin, I would have to lose weight a lot faster. I have calculated that to be at an ideal weight within a year, I would have to eat so little that it would qualify as starvation. I am starting to wonder whether the sheer amount of prejudice associated with being overweight might mean that this is actually the better option, since I may need that extra edge to convince people that I am competent enough to hire, even after I get my degree.
Weight loss must be gradual if you want to keep it off. I learned that the hard way. I was slapped on a 1500 calorie diet and I lost 55 lbs in 7 months and I looked AMAZING but, unfortunately it didn't last very long. Then again at the time I was unaware of why I overate in the first place. Definitely don't want to repeat the same mistake again.
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gain lots of weight when i stop eating gluten ive heard your stumach swells up from it for a while -_-'
It does, UndercoverAlien, and you also start to gain weight, but only for a few weeks while you stabilise (unless you are seriously underweight anyway). The best thing I found for stomach swelling is to take acidophilus supplements to aid disgestion (NOT just the yoghurts, you need "industrial strength" to get your digestion working again) and try to stick to "low bulk" foods for a while...purees, mashes and soups are good...less to digest...
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I also ride my bicycle or walk everywhere I go... resulting in a reasonable amount of exercise.
Callista,
That sounds like a metabolic problem of some sort to me...and might be worth exploring?
Otherwise, have you ever tried a low carb diet that doesn't have to be low calorie?
M
I'm depressed a lot, but it's more due to a hormone imbalance rather than by Asperger's Syndrome (which didn't help it much, either, I suppose). I gained maybe 15-20 lbs as I began cutting down on smoking, but I'm not 'obese' by any stretch. I'm at 'average' weight for a 41-yr-old female. Generally when I'm depressed or else extremely focused on a writing or graphics project, I don't eat much at all. I drink way too much coffee, though.
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I used to be suicidal, but I'm not anymore. I have too much I want to accomplish before I die.
I've gained a lot of weight over the past few years (40 lbs) due to a combination of poor eating habits and as a side effect of my medication. I don't worry about it too much though; my mom says she'd rather me be overweight and mentally sound than skinny and suicidal.
I used to be very depressed, but now I'm contented with my life. It's due in part to my medication, but it's mostly because I've reached a point of self-acceptance and love for who and what I am.
Any relevant information would help satisfy my curiosity.
I already posted a topic for suicide on the forum....
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I've always had a weight problem, and it's affected my view of myself (I feel UGLY!). But intellectually, I think I have the equivalent of anorexia. What I mean is that when I think of myself, I believe I'm a worthless idiot, even though I was intelligent enough to make it all the way through university and get a good job, and everyone I know thinks I'm smart and attractive. It depresses me very much to think this way, and I often wonder if it would make a difference if I suddenly didn't exist anymore. But I couldn't kill myself because I'm afraid of the thought of death or dying.
I've been 'heavy' all of my life. I'm 38 years old now and have got down to about a 36" waist, which is the smallest I've been since my teens. No real trying, just weight work & walking.
But... And I think this needs made clear, I have known (biblically) some beautiful women in my life, I think the prettiest I've ever been near was a particular girl who was a 20/22. Size... Really size isn't the be all and end all. Shine, and you can be beautiful no matter what your waist measurement.