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29 Sep 2008, 10:41 pm

I also have an interest in serial killers. A morbid fascination really.. Especially with the more colorful ones.


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29 Sep 2008, 11:25 pm

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I recently read "Helter Skelter" and now I can't get Charles Manson out of my head. It's really the only thing I willingly bring up in conversation, and the only thing that consistently interests me. I know it's a really bad thing to talk about, but it really is the special interest I have. I don't know how to change interests. Anyone ever had this problem?


It's not a big deal, unless you start 'identifying' with Manson. If you're just interested in Manson as a case study, you're not alone. A lot of people are obsessed with it. I was obsessed with the Zodiac killer from the age of 7 when I first heard of him, until my late 30's, when the latest book revealing the guy's possible identity came out. I still am fascinated with the Lizzie Borden case and also Jack the Ripper (the Whitechapel murders). It's the mystery involving the why's and how's of these cases that fascinate me. I don't want to emulate these sicko people, they just fascinate me in the same way that a rare bug might fascinate a wanna-be entomologist.


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29 Sep 2008, 11:32 pm

I am pretty morbid, so I have gone through a lot of death-related obsessions. For instance, what's not to like about forensic entomology?



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30 Sep 2008, 1:19 am

I don't find an interest in Charles Manson/The Manson Family the slightest bit bad or even odd. Your interest stemmed from a book written about the man, so someone had to be interested enough in him to spend years researching and writing it, but that's only one of the many books, songs, and films made about Manson. I even have a DVD in my collection about him. Think of the libraries of literature about Jack the Ripper, or that The Silence of the Lambs won a plethora of Academy Awards, including Best Picture, and is rated as #24 on IMDb's Top 250 films, exactly ten spots ahead of Se7en. And isn't Dexter one of the most popular shows on television?

There's nothing weird about having an interest in serial killers, especially not if they have such cult status as Manson.



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30 Sep 2008, 5:47 am

I got into Jack Ripper for a long time.



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30 Sep 2008, 6:16 am

Now that I think about it I was interested in Jack the Ripper, strange that so many of us have been, I saw an interesting documentty lately which was a realy detailed look at identifying who he was. Aparently contrary to popular belief they think that he was not actualy a doctor, they think that he was fairly low in inteligence and he was propbably one of the people they spoke to when they whent door to door. They think that he was able to look very average and mixed with not being what they were looking for he was easily pushed aside, and he may have had a dominate women in his life wrecking there thought that he was controling of women. Aparently he has mostly become myth and by todays standards he was a novice, but got away with it as they had no experience or idea of how to handle those cases.

My main interst was on mysteries such as this, spontaneous combustion and strange beast attacks that were recorded and resembled a werewolf. It had a specific name "the beast of *blank*", my biggest interest were on the poltergiest cases, especialy the more violent ones.


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30 Sep 2008, 6:33 am

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im obsessed with serial killers. as long as you dont actually admire them for thier deeds, or talk about it excessively, i dont see the problem. i like charles manson as well, ted bundy, richard chase, all of them


Hmm. There's good chance you may become a serial killer yourself. This is the pattern.



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30 Sep 2008, 12:10 pm

Slowmutant you shouldn't make such presumptions of people. It's easy to judge someone based on their interest in serial killers, but only a psychologist or a psychiatrist can diagnose a pathology that would lead to someone becoming one.



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30 Sep 2008, 12:28 pm

Another Jack the Ripper "fan" here 8O Of course I don't identify with him or anything like that, or even condone what he did...I just appreciate the history and the mystery...like the interest I would have in a good ghost story.

I could probably do without the photos of his victims, though :x

If you're interested in Charles Manson, you should check out his music. Some of it's pretty catchy, and the Beach Boys even covered one of his tunes (others have covered his music too, but only after the murders, for the shock value I reckon).


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30 Sep 2008, 1:01 pm

slowmutant wrote:
waitingforthesun7 wrote:
im obsessed with serial killers. as long as you dont actually admire them for thier deeds, or talk about it excessively, i dont see the problem. i like charles manson as well, ted bundy, richard chase, all of them


Hmm. There's good chance you may become a serial killer yourself. This is the pattern.



That's not necessarily true. An unhealthy obsession with serial killers could mean just about anything. Add in a hatred for one's mother, bedwetting to the age of 16 & beyond, as well as setting fires and/or harming small animals...and then there's a problem.


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30 Sep 2008, 1:09 pm

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Now that I think about it I was interested in Jack the Ripper, strange that so many of us have been, I saw an interesting documentty lately which was a realy detailed look at identifying who he was. Aparently contrary to popular belief they think that he was not actualy a doctor, they think that he was fairly low in inteligence and he was propbably one of the people they spoke to when they whent door to door. They think that he was able to look very average and mixed with not being what they were looking for he was easily pushed aside, and he may have had a dominate women in his life wrecking there thought that he was controling of women. Aparently he has mostly become myth and by todays standards he was a novice, but got away with it as they had no experience or idea of how to handle those cases.

My main interst was on mysteries such as this, spontaneous combustion and strange beast attacks that were recorded and resembled a werewolf. It had a specific name "the beast of *blank*", my biggest interest were on the poltergiest cases, especialy the more violent ones.


Have you read Patricia Cornwell's recent book on the Whitechapel murders? She puts forth a very believable hypothesis that the killer was actually a sociopathic stage actor. She uses some of the 'Dear Boss' letters in a handwriting comparison that seemed pretty convincing to me.

Love ghost hunts. I've been on a few myself and I regularly watch 'Ghosthunters' on the Sci Fi channel and 'Most Haunted' on either BBC America or Travel channel. It's getting closer to Halloween, so there will be more of them on. 'Most Haunted' is supposed to be airing a special ghost hunt episode this Oct 10th (I think) in the Gettysburg battle site.


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30 Sep 2008, 1:15 pm

my interest is nothing more than an intense interest. im not ashamed of it in any way shape or form, and i do not see how it could be wrong. i have no desires to even emotionally harm someone, let alone kill a random persn. i wont even kill bugs.

im very educated when it comes to killers, and not one is a killer due to an interest in them. genetics and environment(abuse, poverty), is what causes a serial killer.

so, before you make such ignorant, foolish presumptions about me, learn a bit about forensic psychology.



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30 Sep 2008, 1:15 pm

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I don't find an interest in Charles Manson/The Manson Family the slightest bit bad or even odd. Your interest stemmed from a book written about the man, so someone had to be interested enough in him to spend years researching and writing it, but that's only one of the many books, songs, and films made about Manson. I even have a DVD in my collection about him. Think of the libraries of literature about Jack the Ripper, or that The Silence of the Lambs won a plethora of Academy Awards, including Best Picture, and is rated as #24 on IMDb's Top 250 films, exactly ten spots ahead of Se7en. And isn't Dexter one of the most popular shows on television?

There's nothing weird about having an interest in serial killers, especially not if they have such cult status as Manson.


I strenuously disagree. I reject Charles Manson as a celebrity for his crimes. These people should not be admired.



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30 Sep 2008, 1:33 pm

no, these people should be psychoanalized extensivly. more research and understanding of these types of people can and probably will lead to future prevention of children even becoming killers.

its foolish to just write these types of people off as "sickos". they are complicated individuals. and denying how interesting they actually are is probably a result of.... your religeous morals *vomits*.



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30 Sep 2008, 1:52 pm

I had the same interest, not so much these days. Maybe it was the music. Did you ever hear Manson's songs? There is one album and some jailhouse recordings. There is something tragic about the whole episode, even apart from the obvious.



30 Sep 2008, 2:10 pm

Actually doctors have studied serial killers or I wouldn't even hear about they have above average intelligence, they are loners in their childhood and shy, they were bullied, abused, etc.
Of course just because a child has all those things or some of the above doesn't mean they will grow up to be a serial killer. If a child has fantasies about killing and he likes torturing animals, then I would be worried about it and give him/her counseling if could afford it. I'm sure my parents would pay for the sessions or my boyfriends insurance.
Doctors have even suspected that some people are born to kill.


I think it has to do with the way their minds are wired. I see them as mentally ill and crazy. I still think they belong in prisons.