Aspie snapped his teacher's arm. Anyone else here dangerous?

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26 Nov 2008, 10:31 pm

I've gotten it under control.......

In my first 8 years in school, after a few years i was known as: Don't piss him off. If you go after him and he gets mad, he's stronger than any of 2 of you combined. 2 guys broke their hands on my head and I just stood there wondering what just happened......

My trackrecord: 2 broken key-bones, 2 broken toes, 1 dislocated shoulders, 1 broken nose, 1 ruptured ear drum, i choked one guy till he fainted (i zoned out after i grabbed him).

Even though my outbursts like that were not random, but due to people physically assaulting me, the last mentioned incident triggered an extreme desire in me to get my anger under control, because it really scared the living daylights out of me that i was capable of something like that.

Ten years after that, a friend told me that back then i scared people (and him), but that i had changed; that i was less angry and less annoying. To me, it's one of the biggest compliments i've ever been given.



26 Nov 2008, 10:33 pm

I was dangerous as a kid. My mother told me I would hurt kids and people because I couldn't talk. It was the only way I could express myself.

As I got older, I fought when kids bugged me and wouldn't leave me alone. When I was in 6th grade, I got in so many fights, my school wanted to put me in a class with violent kids.



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26 Nov 2008, 10:45 pm

I ran away from the boys and kissed the girls. (In kindergarten)



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12 Dec 2014, 2:11 pm

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Too bad the little frail Aspies can not rely on that..and they are the ones that mostly get the aggression..Teaching them self defense at an early age is best..imo



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12 Dec 2014, 2:25 pm

Hmm, I don't like the branding of autistics as violent.

Plenty of people get attacked by neurotypicals. The difference is, when they have Autism the headline reads "Autistic student breaks teachers arm", when they don't have autism the headline reads "Student breaks teachers arm" and likely has follow up stories asking "Was the student autistic?".

A younger me was a pacifist, and I even once got mugged while working as a delivery boy for the local pharmacy. I could well have successfully resorted to violence - I have a blue belt in Ju Jitsu and they weren't much stronger than me - but chose not too, both out of pacifism and because there were young kids watching nearby, and I didn't want to contribute to teaching them that violence is the answer.

Now that I'm older though, I have to admit I'm not as pacifist as I once was... If you attack me, I will use whatever force I deem necessary to defend myself. I don't think that's as a result of my autism though. I'm sure plenty of neurotypicals feel the same.

EDIT: BTW, the people who mugged me were neurotypical. Perhaps there should have been a headline saying "Neurotypicals mug autistic boy, 15, as he delivered prescriptions to the old and needy. When will their violence end?" :P


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12 Dec 2014, 10:27 pm

I was bullied alot as a kid & I couldn't even put all my force into defending myself. I'm too much of a p#ssy to be dangerous unless one of a couple people I love get hurt but I never knew of that happening.


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13 Dec 2014, 12:04 am

My younger self is practically dangerous when angered. The main reason why it's because I never get to understand why people bully or bother me when I do nothing. People simply put a blind eye whenever they provoke me. They all kept telling me to 'ignore it', 'get over it', blablabla; and more useless advice being repeated all over again. If not, they all turn against me, when I never started anything. I simply never want to be bothered or involved, then they can all jump on the cliff for all I care. They hesitate to transfer me because they say that I'm a girl, and I mustn't mixed up with students who are practically gang members. (Except, they're scared of me). It didn't stop during high school, until 3rd year.

At these days, I don't want to hurt anyone. And so I remain and try to maintain a more rational mind. I might be still dangerous enough to leave a person injured when provoked. Just holding back because up to now, I still don't know my own physical strength. Even I hold back whenever I'm closing doors or dropping bags. That is how they end up mistaken me for being angry all the time when I'm not. If I'm close to the point to become violent, and when I lost the control, I end up crying so I wont able to hurt anyone.

Ironically, when it comes to my friends, I don't want any of them to be violent. To add more into that, I'm their mediator. But then, they're aware what would happen when they piss me off.

But then again, it's never because of one's neurology. It's about cause and effect. Saying a bullied person is violent because he/she snapped or fought back, means he/she's strong or weak. To me, there is no such thing as 'weak or strong'.


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13 Dec 2014, 7:58 pm

Hmm, that's interesting. Not that this thread is 6 years old but rather that Spokane_Girl's posts are showing. That's League_Girl's old account and those posts didn't show on the old site because both her previous accounts were deleted.



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13 Dec 2014, 11:02 pm

Jono wrote:
Hmm, that's interesting. Not that this thread is 6 years old but rather that Spokane_Girl's posts are showing. That's League_Girl's old account and those posts didn't show on the old site because both her previous accounts were deleted.



I guess updating this site made my old posts come back as a guest.


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13 Dec 2014, 11:36 pm

Don't get between me and my Xbox.

I break your face.

And people that eat all my eggs/mushrooms.

I eat all your eggs, see how you feel.

It's my problem, I'll deal with it.


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14 Dec 2014, 12:16 am

Even Mahatma Gandhi has his limits.
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14 Dec 2014, 12:36 am

My main violence, has been against myself, always.
I think I did go through a phase around the ages of 6-7 when I hit other children, but not in such a way as to cause any real harm.
It would take a lot, I think, for me to be able to physically attack another person as more often than not, I blame myself for everything.
I am just not a violent person, when it comes to other people.
My walls, however, might beg to differ.


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14 Dec 2014, 1:08 am

Well if I was in a situation where people where trying to harm me or saw them trying to hurt like someone I care about or one of my cats then yeah I'd likely attempt to defend myself or do something about the situation I couldn't just like watch something like that go down without intervening somehow....or simply get away as quickly as I can. If a drunk person for instance came at me then I'd feel pretty confident I could outrun them might kick them in the knee or something first to slow them down more. So I guess in some situations I could be dangerous.

But I am a just a short, skinny hippy pretty much much more likely to be carrying around an armload of vinyls I've just purchased than say a weapon....lol so I don't think I pose that much danger in general, though when I wear my more metalhead clothes sometimes people seem to find me intimidating/scary or whatever I have even had people tell me that.


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14 Dec 2014, 1:18 am

i haven't hit anyone for thirty years, even when hit. i have called the police. you don't have to be violent in order to stay safe.



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14 Dec 2014, 1:28 am

cathylynn wrote:
i haven't hit anyone for thirty years, even when hit. i have called the police. you don't have to be violent in order to stay safe.


Sometimes the police take a long time, also I'd be worried of police brutality...how do I know they'd take my side?


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14 Dec 2014, 2:05 am

Hmm, there's different kinds of "dangerous" other than just physical. The definition extending a bit, I might classify as that.

Normally I'm polite and caring, but sometimes I run into someone who is an absolute jerkwad or bully, constantly causing problems for me or friends of mine, and in THOSE cases, I can get... manipulative, vindictive, and unpleasant.

The best two examples.... number 1 was back in high school. There were plenty of bullies and just unpleasant individuals in that school, but one of them really stood out. He'd CONSTANTLY pestered me over the 4 years, pestered ALOT of people, tended to get right up in your face, and just, well... yeah, kept going from there. During senior year, getting somewhat near the end, he pushed me just a BIT too far. I knew full well that he was branded as a bit of a troublemaker, and knew also that it was likely that the faculty were probably not very happy with him in an overall sense, so I.... capitalized on this fact. I was on very good terms with MOST of the faculty, and most of them knew me (including the principal and those that worked in the main office), and, without actually breaking any rules myself, well... I'll not take a million years to explain the process, but after I was done, everything was stacked against the jerk, and he was either held back or expelled, as he'd hit the "last straw" situation due to what the faculty now knew about him.... I dont quite remember which of those it was (I knew at the time), but he didnt graduate that year. Ah, the horrid glare he gave me after these events. Wont forget that.

There was also the time I worked at the theater, and after a decently good day, my idiot manager at the time found that the till was short 20 dollars, and decided that I must have lost it somehow (it was easy to prove that I didnt STEAL it) and decided it was time to fire, immediately. I knew she wasnt the brightest bulb, and there was a high chance of her having simply made a mistake, but not only would she not acknowledge this, she also didnt heed the warning I gave her after this, as she was quite sure that a low-ranking employee couldnt REALLY do anything. Turned out to be wrong. It turned out that it wasnt too hard to contact one of the guys on the highest tier of the food-chain in that company, and... well, it didnt take long at all. 3 or 4 days, and she was out of there. ....and in the process it was found out that SHE had lost the money when moving/counting/something. SURPRISE. Normally, I was fine with being fired... I knew I was a terrible employee in many jobs, with my inability to communicate, and general constant desire to be anywhere else, but being fired for a reason that hadnt even happened didnt fly, really.


There's way more detail for both stories, but yeah... that sorta thing is what happens. Fortunately, it's very rare that it occurs... I tend to avoid meeting unpleasant sorts most of the time, and I am not in school, nor do I work anymore, so the two types of places most likely to cause that are gone for me now.