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NocturnalQuilter
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08 Dec 2008, 2:57 pm

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I confess, I don't get this thread either. I've been monitoring it hoping someone would clarify. But the mystery continues to build... 2 pages and I'm still lost.

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08 Dec 2008, 3:01 pm

ephemerella wrote:

NocturnalQuilter wrote:

Chimchar wrote:

The "cure". As in, take the Magical pill and become a NT. That sort of thing. That's the kind of cure that will never exist, and even if there was a cure, no one is going to force it on anyone.

K....
I must be too thick, but I don't get what this thread is really about.
Sorry.

I confess, I don't get this thread either. I've been monitoring it hoping someone would clarify. But the mystery continues to build... 2 pages and I'm still lost.

Oh, it's just a kid from one of those places where the common folk have difficulty understanding that a governing body is not static...
"The government", bearing that horrendous ambiguity of any blanket assertion.
Which government? Which party, what policies, what nation, what measure would public opinion and social change sway that government? What economic and cultural concerns? Any existing national crisises? "The government" is a rather naive view.

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08 Dec 2008, 3:02 pm

Oh, thank goodness! A cure! It's a good thing we have on-the-ball, 18-year-olds like yourself to surf the internet and find this information. Thank you!

My karma ran over your dogma.

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08 Dec 2008, 3:18 pm

Thank you for bashing me and my views. I greatly appreciate it.

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08 Dec 2008, 3:28 pm

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Thank you for bashing me and my views. I greatly appreciate it.

Sarcasm- I'd recognize that tone anywhere. :wink:

Seriously, I think many here are just at a loss as to what this thread was really all about- so I wouldn't be overly surprised if some responses aren't in allignment with your sentiment.

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08 Dec 2008, 3:52 pm

Chimchar wrote:

Thank you for bashing me and my views. I greatly appreciate it.

I apologize. I don't mean to bash you, and my sarcasm may have been immature. It's just that you came across as if you were so sure you had the answer. It was a bit like when people come to my door and try to tell me that the answer to all my problems (which they know nothing about) is to get right with Jesus. I can't help but respond with a little eye-rolling and sarcasm.

But I do apologize. If you truly meant well, and I suppose you did, then I shouldn't have been harsh.

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08 Dec 2008, 4:02 pm

... so do you mean to say AD(H)D meds reduce autistic symptoms?

Right, I'm confused now.

Or was that just a comparison?

Because methylphenidate does not usually even remotely touch autistic symptoms you know. Make them worse, mess with them, but not reduce the actual autism. It can make things such as flapping go away, but usually a new behaviour will start.

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08 Dec 2008, 4:10 pm

NocturnalQuilter wrote:

Chimchar wrote:

Thank you for bashing me and my views. I greatly appreciate it.

Sarcasm- I'd recognize that tone anywhere. :wink:

You would?

Oh heck, you went ahead and had the cure without us? I did not know Robert Smith swung that way. Was it just like heaven?

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08 Dec 2008, 5:05 pm

ephemerella wrote:

NocturnalQuilter wrote:

Chimchar wrote:

The "cure". As in, take the Magical pill and become a NT. That sort of thing. That's the kind of cure that will never exist, and even if there was a cure, no one is going to force it on anyone.

K....
I must be too thick, but I don't get what this thread is really about.
Sorry.

I confess, I don't get this thread either. I've been monitoring it hoping someone would clarify. But the mystery continues to build... 2 pages and I'm still lost.

Here's my understanding of what the OP is about:

t0's understanding of the OP wrote:

Hey people with AS - stop making a fuss about a cure. It's not for you, it's for LFA. It's not about aborting you, killing you, or changing you into another person. It's about treatment that will make all your AS symptoms go away so you'll be a normal functioning human being.

Atleast that's what I responded to in my earlier post.

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08 Dec 2008, 5:19 pm

Ishmael wrote:

ephemerella wrote:

NocturnalQuilter wrote:

Chimchar wrote:

The "cure". As in, take the Magical pill and become a NT. That sort of thing. That's the kind of cure that will never exist, and even if there was a cure, no one is going to force it on anyone.

K....
I must be too thick, but I don't get what this thread is really about.
Sorry.

I confess, I don't get this thread either. I've been monitoring it hoping someone would clarify. But the mystery continues to build... 2 pages and I'm still lost.

"The government" is a rather naive view.

Perhaps blanket statements in general are naive. Blanket statements about cures for autism, about government, about the intelligence a person based on their country of origin...

Or it may even be, as Mr. Mark Twain said, All generalizations are false...including this one!

:wink:

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08 Dec 2008, 6:22 pm

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I wonder if you are troll or not. Either way, I suggest you look how government/health systems/education systems really work before sounding off.

would you just stfu???? I hate people calling names and worst I hate the trendy word Troll or Trolling. You're lucky I don't see you face to face, cause I would scream your head off!! !!

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08 Dec 2008, 6:30 pm

I think tO explained my point rather well, except for that last statement. Thank you.

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08 Dec 2008, 6:34 pm

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I think tO explained my p

oint rather well, except for that last statement. Thank you.

i wasn't talking to you

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08 Dec 2008, 6:48 pm

t0's understanding of the OP wrote:

Okay, I'm definitely in the ranks of the thoroughly confused (hi guys!). I've read this thread over three times and I still don't know what the hell it's about. This is what my befuddled mind can muster at this point in time:

1. Chimchar seemed to be saying that talk about a "cure" is about medication for severely low-functioning auties, and not for anyone else.

2. Others seem to differ, er, vehemently. Is this because "cure" talk is about medicating *everyone* on the spectrum? Or because it's about turning us into NTs generally, however that is accomplished? In other words, are people angry because Chimchar is misstating the case?

3) If you're angry that Chimchar is misstating the case, why all the anger? Why not just provide evidence to the contrary? I don't know much about the "cure" folks, but it sounds like if you drop the word "cure" into the conversation, all hell breaks loose.

Come on, guys, help me out here. I have a high verbal IQ and I can't figure out what in G-d's name you're all talking about.

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08 Dec 2008, 6:53 pm

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...but it sounds like if you drop the word "cure" into the conversation, all hell breaks loose.

Aha, either you like The Cure, or you do not. I think it's ok, although personally I liked it more when I was younger.

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08 Dec 2008, 7:44 pm

i'm pretty sure that a cure would rewire my brain and rob me of my complex musical-processing centre...which would make me lose about half my talent over night...it'd be awful.x

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