What would it be like if you lived in an AS Community/Home?

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What would it be like to live in an AS Community/Home?
Party all the time & spewing hot AS trends, research, cookbooks 16%  16%  [ 10 ]
Intense video game tournaments, world gamer master race 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
People screaming all the time What's that smell? Who's playing that music? These colors clash! Someone misaligned my dairy products! 33%  33%  [ 21 ]
No one talking, for days at a time, not even saying hello or goodbye. 25%  25%  [ 16 ]
Just like "Survivor" - constant meetings about how everyone is doing, followed by kicking someone out. 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
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18 Dec 2008, 8:47 pm

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Too much of the same, and we are all different,

We need different. I clash with some, and get along with others, and can see no reason.

I do think we need housing, but not the same one.

we are at a disadvantage in this world, and everyone organizes around cash flow.

That takes a mix, a cluster of brains to see the whole.

Being part of something that values your existance.

Being the only aspie can be bad, all aspies would be worse,

An aspie weighted mix where we were more than one in a hundred, but we still need marketing, highly social people, those who know what will work in reality.

A well rounded tribe.

What he said. Besides, all of us think we know what's best, except for me. :wink:


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18 Dec 2008, 8:53 pm

Inventor wrote:
I do think we need housing, but not the same one.


I agree with this.



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18 Dec 2008, 9:26 pm

MrMark wrote:
Inventor wrote:
Too much of the same, and we are all different,

We need different. I clash with some, and get along with others, and can see no reason.

I do think we need housing, but not the same one.

we are at a disadvantage in this world, and everyone organizes around cash flow.

That takes a mix, a cluster of brains to see the whole.

Being part of something that values your existance.

Being the only aspie can be bad, all aspies would be worse,

An aspie weighted mix where we were more than one in a hundred, but we still need marketing, highly social people, those who know what will work in reality.

A well rounded tribe.

What he said. Besides, all of us think we know what's best, except for me. :wink:


I have some many special interests and have a hard time throwing things away. My house is full of stuff. We have one bedroom just for fly fishing stuff. Another bedroom is like my dressing room, I do my hair in there and have the mirrors, etc. I'm not sure how I could live in a shared house or even have roommates like when I was younger, mostly on account of all my stuff.



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18 Dec 2008, 9:52 pm

gee whizz - the thought of living in a home for people with AS or ASD's or even an ordinary home of any sort with a big group of people is an UTTER NIGHTMARE. i already find it difficult enough, living with my child's dad and my child. I constantly get overhwelmed because there are 3 of us. That's hard enough. throw anymore into the mix for me, and you get one long meltdown and constant outbursts and freak outs.

no thank you. i'll pass on that one.......



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18 Dec 2008, 9:59 pm

I just get the impression of too many housecats in too small a space...;)

Might be interesting to meet other AS folks, but as for living with them? who can say?



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18 Dec 2008, 11:16 pm

I cringe at the thought of living with even one other Aspie and actually I've done that because one of my ex's was on the spectrum. I think you would have constant non-stop fighting and threatening one another because many Aspies can't get along with another human and see only their side of the situation. The women would all be repeatedly raped due to the desperateness of the many virgin AS men. Since many of us have OCD we would be fighting over use of the showers and sinks. And those with sensory issues would be fighting everyone who was making too much noise, turning the lights up to bright and anything that smelled weird, etc. But the main thing is it wouldn't last long because we would all starve to death and be evicted due to not enough people working to foot the rent and no one wanting to cook. Plus no one would clean and the health dept would kick us out provided that we all didn't vanish behind the clutter before they caught us.



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18 Dec 2008, 11:18 pm

I chose the party one.


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18 Dec 2008, 11:34 pm

Ticker wrote:
I cringe at the thought of living with even one other Aspie and actually I've done that because one of my ex's was on the spectrum. I think you would have constant non-stop fighting and threatening one another because many Aspies can't get along with another human and see only their side of the situation. The women would all be repeatedly raped due to the desperateness of the many virgin AS men. Since many of us have OCD we would be fighting over use of the showers and sinks. And those with sensory issues would be fighting everyone who was making too much noise, turning the lights up to bright and anything that smelled weird, etc. But the main thing is it wouldn't last long because we would all starve to death and be evicted due to not enough people working to foot the rent and no one wanting to cook. Plus no one would clean and the health dept would kick us out provided that we all didn't vanish behind the clutter before they caught us.


I would cook, if I were paid to... I am an amazing cook who comes up with a lot of his own recipes. I can taste a smootie and know how to reproduce the exact same smoothie. I have made so many different types of soups, and one of them was high end restaurent quality for every aspect of it other than the bowl it was served in (in a restaurant that would serve the soup, expect to pay $15 for a small bowl). I have made a chicken and vegetables stri fry with chicken gravy and chinese noodle (tonights supper actually) and that was amazing. The list goes on and on.

EDIT: the soup was a roasted red pepper soup.



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18 Dec 2008, 11:36 pm

While I don't think we should completely segregate from NTs, it sounds like a fun idea.

By the way, what are the AS trends, fashion, etc, mentioned in the first option?


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19 Dec 2008, 12:45 am

My brother is pretty AS-like as well... and when we're together we never talk even though we were close as small kids.

I think an AS house would be quiet, boring, and uneventful. I need very NT people in my life for balance, personally. I am entertained by observing them.


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19 Dec 2008, 1:46 am

I'd love to share at least part of my day with people who aren't constantly rejecting me and distancing and finding me weird. That said, Í don't see the need for everyone to live in the same house. Having a couple neighbors like that in my apt building would already be an enormeous relief.


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19 Dec 2008, 5:25 am

Padium wrote:
Ticker wrote:
I cringe at the thought of living with even one other Aspie and actually I've done that because one of my ex's was on the spectrum. I think you would have constant non-stop fighting and threatening one another because many Aspies can't get along with another human and see only their side of the situation. The women would all be repeatedly raped due to the desperateness of the many virgin AS men. Since many of us have OCD we would be fighting over use of the showers and sinks. And those with sensory issues would be fighting everyone who was making too much noise, turning the lights up to bright and anything that smelled weird, etc. But the main thing is it wouldn't last long because we would all starve to death and be evicted due to not enough people working to foot the rent and no one wanting to cook. Plus no one would clean and the health dept would kick us out provided that we all didn't vanish behind the clutter before they caught us.


I would cook, if I were paid to... I am an amazing cook who comes up with a lot of his own recipes. I can taste a smootie and know how to reproduce the exact same smoothie. I have made so many different types of soups, and one of them was high end restaurent quality for every aspect of it other than the bowl it was served in (in a restaurant that would serve the soup, expect to pay $15 for a small bowl). I have made a chicken and vegetables stri fry with chicken gravy and chinese noodle (tonights supper actually) and that was amazing. The list goes on and on.

EDIT: the soup was a roasted red pepper soup.


A cooking savant would generally be a great roommate for anyone to have!



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19 Dec 2008, 5:39 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
While I don't think we should completely segregate from NTs, it sounds like a fun idea.

By the way, what are the AS trends, fashion, etc, mentioned in the first option?


Oh, just a thing that occurred to me the other day.

But AS trends, fashion, etc. would just be geek stuff, I guess, with an eye to quality of texture, practicality, stripped of the affectation. I.e. good stuff without pretentiousness.

There are some amazingly talented and interesting people on this website. I mean, AS are incredibly honest and fresh in their observations.

It would be so easy to throw together some books or compilations of hilarious, fresh and honest things people say here, like Asperger's Guide to Social Life, with Chapters about surviving work parties, etc. So many of the things people say here are actually terribly relevant to what a lot of NTs go through, too. I think some people here don't realize how fresh and interesting their comments on life are.

(But of course you can't do that b/c it would be ripping people's comments off.)



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19 Dec 2008, 9:28 am

ephemerella wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
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I was in a hospital for a week, with other people with mental conditions, just so they could try and diagnose me... It was ok... at first... then it became hell..... Plus I got misdiagnosed with ODD, and tortured mentally for a couple of years after because of it.And because of them the only social worker I can speak to without wanting to tear a strip outa is this exprofootball player that played in... can't remember if it was cfl or nfl.... id have to ask... but only because he was approachable, and not working on me, but rather my brother.


why do I keep reading this here? is ODD some grave illness in the US...? :roll:


He's talking about ODD ("oppositional defiant disorder"), not OCD ("obsessive compulsive disorder").


yes I know, and repeating my question


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19 Dec 2008, 10:04 am

The one issue is the price.

I would guess that anyone that can afford $750/month in rent/utilities/food would either be employed, or have rich parents that are willing to pay all of their living expenses. People like that do not NEED to be in a group home/assisted living.

As such, anyone who can afford to pay that would probably much rather get a small apartment by themselves than live with a few people that would be significantly more "in need" than they are.



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19 Dec 2008, 10:13 am

anna-banana wrote:
ephemerella wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
Padium wrote:
I was in a hospital for a week, with other people with mental conditions, just so they could try and diagnose me... It was ok... at first... then it became hell..... Plus I got misdiagnosed with ODD, and tortured mentally for a couple of years after because of it.And because of them the only social worker I can speak to without wanting to tear a strip outa is this exprofootball player that played in... can't remember if it was cfl or nfl.... id have to ask... but only because he was approachable, and not working on me, but rather my brother.


why do I keep reading this here? is ODD some grave illness in the US...? :roll:


He's talking about ODD ("oppositional defiant disorder"), not OCD ("obsessive compulsive disorder").


yes I know, and repeating my question


Oh, I will make a comment and hope that I don't offend anyone. The AS people who post from Europe & Australia seem to be healthier, with better personalities and more stability. I am getting the feeling that AS and disabled people are treated better in some areas of the world than in the U.S. There is a lot of bad healthcare here (inconsistent, is a better word, perhaps). Administrative and authoritative abuse. If a school system or health care worker tries to punish and abusively "breaK' an AS person who is being bullied and having meltdowns, for example, that is very traumatizing, psychologically damaging. It creates something that appears to be ODD, but is not.

I don't know that ODD is more prevalent or serious in the U.S. But it seems that AS people posting from certain regions of the world seem healthier and they appear to be in general treated better in their societies, with fewer instances of ignorant abuse that is traumatizing.

That is just my hypothetical stab at an answer. Might be wrong.