Would you pay $1 million to stay AS ?

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rdos
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27 Dec 2008, 2:16 pm

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Sorry, I don't talk to you any more.


But you just did. :wink:

So, do you want me to test these traits in Aspie-quiz to prove they are not related to ASCs, but to a bad environment?



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27 Dec 2008, 3:08 pm

rdos wrote:
ThisIsNotMyRealName wrote:
Sorry, I don't talk to you any more.


But you just did. :wink:

So, do you want me to test these traits in Aspie-quiz to prove they are not related to ASCs, but to a bad environment?

No.
a) - Because it's not provable.

b) - Because as I've already told you, I don't talk to you.

Now go and talk to someone who wants to talk to you - or sinsboldly (moderator Merle) is gunna ban me for 'harrassing' you as a 'vulnerable' member.



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27 Dec 2008, 3:15 pm

ThisIsNotMyRealName wrote:
A most insightful and considered post.

( /sarcasm off)


Are you referring to my response or your post I responded to? It's obvious to me (and atleast one other responder on this thread) that your list of "cured items" is utter BS. An AS magic pill will not do any of the things that I quoted in my earlier post. No magic pill will.

You seem to think the grass is a lot greener on the NT side of the fence - you might want to take a walk in their shoes, in their shit-filled lives, before you tell us how easy it is for them.



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27 Dec 2008, 3:24 pm

t0 wrote:
ThisIsNotMyRealName wrote:
A most insightful and considered post.

( /sarcasm off)


Are you referring to my response or your post I responded to? It's obvious to me (and atleast one other responder on this thread) that your list of "cured items" is utter BS. An AS magic pill will not do any of the things that I quoted in my earlier post. No magic pill will.

You seem to think the grass is a lot greener on the NT side of the fence - you might want to take a walk in their shoes, in their sh**-filled lives, before you tell us how easy it is for them.

That's exactly what I'm TRYING to do - but the anti-cure mob want to stop me.



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27 Dec 2008, 3:51 pm

I think I would get rid of my Aspergers Syndrome I want to be independent and be able to talk to strangers when they say "hello" to me and not freak out. Be able to go into a dance class not have private lessons because I cant face the people in the classroom.
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27 Dec 2008, 3:58 pm

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No! Why in the heck would I pay to maintain what is my civil right anyway?

I don't know. Maybe if the alternative were something like a lobotomy, I would. I don't think we should have to pay to maintain our identity. I would flee.

Look on it as a monthly subscription.
can i pay 1£ month?(they will never get whole cash) :twisted:


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27 Dec 2008, 4:23 pm

I would definitely rather pay $1 million as an alternative to being mutilated.

If one is already autistic, how would they know what it is like to be neurotypical? Personally I would see it as being an alien inside of my own mind. (Or would I - it's not normal to see oneself in the third person is it?)



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27 Dec 2008, 4:50 pm

Yes. Definitly.


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27 Dec 2008, 6:35 pm

Sea_of_Saiyan wrote:
I would definitely rather pay $1 million as an alternative to being mutilated.

If one is already autistic, how would they know what it is like to be neurotypical? Personally I would see it as being an alien inside of my own mind. (Or would I - it's not normal to see oneself in the third person is it?)

Indeed not.
You wouldn't have simultaneous dual sensibilities, so there'd be no sense of alien intrusion.



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27 Dec 2008, 7:02 pm

No chance!



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27 Dec 2008, 7:44 pm

Ya know, RDOS has a point!

ThisIsNotMyRealName wrote:
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Depends. I'd have to look into the positives and negatives of each choice first. Would I still be the same person if I were cured-- what else would be different about me?

In answer to your question (and honour and recognition of your rationality), the following information has been provided : -

1) - No more sensory integration issues.


NOT my problem! I LIKE my hyPO sensitivity, and my hyPER sensitivity is something that I see as an ENVIRONMENTAL problem. THEY should fix it. One day I might sue to get PAID for it!

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2) - No more meltdowns


AGAIN, this is THEIR problem!

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3) - You feel lucid, happy and mentally agile.
4) - Your thoughts become a source of interest, not anxiety or depression


Why don't you help the NTs!?!?!?!?

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5) - You no longer have to think up/manufacture responses in social situations, it all comes instinctively


AGAIN, NTs have problems there!

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6) - People find you amusing, interesting and likable


AGAIN, NTs have the same problems!

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7) - You like and can genuinely connect with humanity


I'd rather they connect with ME!

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8) - You're much more up-together because you have excellent executive functionality (self awareness, self-control, good working memory, motivation)
9) - Your thoughts become much more crystalline and in consequence, you are able to communicate and express them very succinctly - both verbally and on paper.


I have no problems there.

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10) - Your new found sociability and popularity mean that you can choose from a wide range of occupations


Not worth it.

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11) - You get positive reactions from humanity and attract lots of friends.
12) - You find yourself supported by friends and family because they like you.
13) - You can look forward to a career with genuine scope for promotion
14) - The world is full of potential rather than hostility and uncertainty


AGAIN, help the NTs FIRST!

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16) - Your sporting potential in unleashed and you can enjoy a variety of them


NO THANKS!

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17) - You are graceful and elegant in motion


In my own way, I often am.

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18) - You are respected by humanity
19) - You are loved by humanity


Name one person that is!

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20) - Life is just a great deal easier


HOW!?

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21) - You get to lead a life that fulfills your need for security, belonging and self-realisation


Gee, what about those poor NTs?

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.... but I'm afraid that's all.


NO THANKS! I wouldn't pay 0.10 for that!



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10 Jan 2009, 11:19 pm

If it was the other way around,
Would you accept 1 million dollars for getting or being tested on for a "cure"

I think I would say no

Because if I got a million dollars, I would not know what to spend it on if I lost my interests (my many, um one or two interests), or even who I am to some extent.



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10 Jan 2009, 11:29 pm

Personally, I think these type of questions are pointless.

1: Why would I pay to stay myself (as someone else noted)?
2: Okay, so no more [insert Aspie related concern here], given the fact that such is all I know, it would be a gamble to presume I would like the absence of such things any better than their presence.
2a: There is always a trade-off. So I won't be [insert trait]; instead I'll be [insert trait].


Call me crazy (seriously, I don't mind :D ) but these kind of questions often are based on the notion that things would be better. They might not, they may be equally problematic (just with different issues) or they could in fact be worse.



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11 Jan 2009, 12:02 am

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Call me crazy (seriously, I don't mind :D ) but these kind of questions often are based on the notion that things would be better. They might not, they may be equally problematic (just with different issues) or they could in fact be worse.


Can you please point me to the Right Planet boards? You know where NTs b***h about how miserable their lives are because they are normal.



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11 Jan 2009, 12:24 am

Roughly 18% of the US population has been diagnosed with anxiety--which is caused by something. There are 300 million Americans (rounding to an even hundred) in the US, which puts the 18% at 54 million. Depending on how much you trust Wikipedia:

The prevalence of Asperger's is .3 per 1000 or 90,000 and the prevalence for ASD is 6 per 1000 or 1,800,00


Basically, according to readily retrieved data from Google, even if every single person currently diagnosed with ASD had anxiety, that would leave a whopping 52+ million people (NTs) suffering from anxiety as well (that's 17% or almost 1 in 5, not very low numbers).


Again, such questions only presume that life would be better, but don't guarantee it. It's tantamount to contemplating what I would do if I suddenly had a million dollars--it's nice for small talk but pointless in the long run.



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11 Jan 2009, 1:28 am

astaroth666 wrote:
KazigluBey wrote:
Call me crazy (seriously, I don't mind :D ) but these kind of questions often are based on the notion that things would be better. They might not, they may be equally problematic (just with different issues) or they could in fact be worse.


Can you please point me to the Right Planet boards? You know where NTs b***h about how miserable their lives are because they are normal.
http://www.golivewire.com/ u asked lol :lol:


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