Page 2 of 10 [ 146 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10  Next

Ryn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 9 Apr 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 492

13 Jan 2009, 10:50 am

Really? Sometimes I feel really lacking in the social department. I haven't noticed any flame wars in a long time, and the trolls are just making their usual posts that I don't click on. Maybe I just missed them or something (though I'm not interested in finding them--drama is overrated).

I feel comfortable on WP. I've never had anyone be mean to me. But I also don't notice the "ups and downs" of social acceptance and nonacceptance, either.

I hope I haven't been a problem. If I have, it was never intentional.

sartresue wrote:
Some of the more consistent members have not been posting (much) of late: Ed Almos, Alex, Anbuend, Jrknothead, and Strapples.


Strapples hasn't been here due to server and computer issues. He has a thread somewhere over in Random Discussion about it, I think.


_________________
"I myself am made entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."--Augusten Burroughs


Last edited by Ryn on 13 Jan 2009, 10:52 am, edited 1 time in total.

DeLoreanDude
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,562
Location: FL

13 Jan 2009, 10:52 am

Sorry for the shameless plug but there is a nice small forum for those on the spectrum here http://www.spectrumforums.com

I use both that forum and this one because there advantages to small and large communities.



pezar
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2008
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,432

13 Jan 2009, 11:48 am

I personally think there's a problem in the AS community with "self-diagnosed aspies" who aren't really aspie at all but think it's way cool to claim to be one because it sounds way rebellious. It reminds me of how all the white hippies were claiming to be 5% Navajo in the 1970s-it was cool to be seen as an oppressed minority. I think we're coming into another era where being seen as a certain minority group that is perceived to be rebellious against the system is the "in thing", and autistics just happen to be it. The good news is that just like Native Americans went from "dumb Injun" stereotypes to being seen as human because of the 5% Craze, all the fake self-dx going on now will ultimately benefit those of us who really ARE autistic, in that we will be seen as real people worthy of consideration. In the meantime, the fakes are turning discussion forums upside down with flame wars and angry pseudo-advocacy. It is hurting those of us who ARE AS, because we are naturally klutzy socially and forever misunderstood by NTs, and we get ganged up on on our own forums.



benjimanbreeg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,515

13 Jan 2009, 11:54 am

cman_yall wrote:
[Edit because that wasn't really funny like I first thought it would be]

It's just too easy to be a prick on the internet, really. But people need a place to vent, sometimes, and better here than in the middle of a crowded subway train, or taking a rifle to school one day.


um yeah, good luck with that 8O Maybe work on standing up for yourself more if thats the problem. Its helpedme a lot. Or get a boxing bag, that does the trick too :P I just know there was a lot of trouble last time I was posting, maybe its all me lol. And it was mainly down to religion. So I have to bite my tongue. Why, when the whole world are fighting over it, should we as well! And over what more than likely is all a myth. I'll stop there :D And once it starts, you get people quoting about 5 different seperate lines of what someone has written, then giving an essay about each line! I don't mind a bit of arguing so much or some harmful banter. But some people here will go out of their way to put the other person down or try to humiliate them. If they're really that clever, they should be able to do that in about 7 lines or less :wink:



benjimanbreeg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,515

13 Jan 2009, 11:57 am

pezar wrote:
I personally think there's a problem in the AS community with "self-diagnosed aspies" who aren't really aspie at all but think it's way cool to claim to be one because it sounds way rebellious. It reminds me of how all the white hippies were claiming to be 5% Navajo in the 1970s-it was cool to be seen as an oppressed minority. I think we're coming into another era where being seen as a certain minority group that is perceived to be rebellious against the system is the "in thing", and autistics just happen to be it. The good news is that just like Native Americans went from "dumb Injun" stereotypes to being seen as human because of the 5% Craze, all the fake self-dx going on now will ultimately benefit those of us who really ARE autistic, in that we will be seen as real people worthy of consideration. In the meantime, the fakes are turning discussion forums upside down with flame wars and angry pseudo-advocacy. It is hurting those of us who ARE AS, because we are naturally klutzy socially and forever misunderstood by NTs, and we get ganged up on on our own forums.


I think you have a great point there. They're not on the spectrum, they're just bitter, and have nothing better to do.



13 Jan 2009, 12:02 pm

*wrong thread*



Last edited by Spokane_Girl on 13 Jan 2009, 12:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

13 Jan 2009, 12:04 pm

irikarah wrote:
I think it's strange that anyone would think that if someone is an Aspie, they're somehow incapable of being a dick to other people. They come in all shapes, all sizes.


Bingo.



garyww
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Nov 2008
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,395
Location: Napa, California

13 Jan 2009, 12:05 pm

Compared to many other sites this one has the fewest number of flame wars, trolls, salesmen and students looking for material that I've experienced.
It it seems chaotic it's because we by nature can be a little chaotic in life.
More catagories or subcatagories for posting would make it seem better organized but it's already large by most standards.
One also has to take into consideration the wide range of ages posting here, probably from 13 to 70 or so is my guess and that appears to add to the chaos.


_________________
I am one of those people who your mother used to warn you about.


Maditude
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2008
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Posts: 850
Location: New Jersey, USA

13 Jan 2009, 12:08 pm

Gary is correct. I have been here for about a month and this is the first site that hasn't given me advice on where to go or told me how to please myself.


_________________
"Everything was fine until I woke up."

"Vortex of Freedom" Radio Show
Saturdays 6PM Eastern - 5PM Central
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/maditude


makuranososhi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 May 2008
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,805
Location: Banned by Alex

13 Jan 2009, 12:09 pm

pezar wrote:
I personally think there's a problem in the AS community with "self-diagnosed aspies" who aren't really aspie at all but think it's way cool to claim to be one because it sounds way rebellious. It reminds me of how all the white hippies were claiming to be 5% Navajo in the 1970s-it was cool to be seen as an oppressed minority. I think we're coming into another era where being seen as a certain minority group that is perceived to be rebellious against the system is the "in thing", and autistics just happen to be it. The good news is that just like Native Americans went from "dumb Injun" stereotypes to being seen as human because of the 5% Craze, all the fake self-dx going on now will ultimately benefit those of us who really ARE autistic, in that we will be seen as real people worthy of consideration. In the meantime, the fakes are turning discussion forums upside down with flame wars and angry pseudo-advocacy. It is hurting those of us who ARE AS, because we are naturally klutzy socially and forever misunderstood by NTs, and we get ganged up on on our own forums.


So who decides who has "real AS" and how do you propose to determine the qualifications and process for choosing who is allowed to be a member? While there are some who find a curious satisfaction in aping the behavior of others, finding solace or pity within, it angers me to no end when I read words suggesting that the suffering of others isn't 'convenient' for the person speaking. So many expectations for others to live up to, it's no surprise that we are often disappointed.


M.


_________________
My thanks to all the wonderful members here; I will miss the opportunity to continue to learn and work with you.

For those who seek an alternative, it is coming.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!


garyww
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Nov 2008
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,395
Location: Napa, California

13 Jan 2009, 12:15 pm

Yead I did that 'who has AS' thread and thought I'd get a contract put out on me so that's not a good place to go.


_________________
I am one of those people who your mother used to warn you about.


garyww
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Nov 2008
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,395
Location: Napa, California

13 Jan 2009, 12:15 pm

Yead I did that 'who has AS' thread and thought I'd get a contract put out on me so that's not a good place to go.


_________________
I am one of those people who your mother used to warn you about.


benjimanbreeg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,515

13 Jan 2009, 12:26 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
irikarah wrote:
I think it's strange that anyone would think that if someone is an Aspie, they're somehow incapable of being a dick to other people. They come in all shapes, all sizes.


Bingo.


wrong game.

Oh, I thought he was talking about dicks :P I didn't really think that, I meant because of their condition, they might carry on acting like a twat and not realise. Or never back down, apologise etc



KazigluBey
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 3 Jan 2009
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 405

13 Jan 2009, 12:32 pm

Well, I hope that WP hasn't lost its way; I just got here and came specifically looking for support for a diagnosis that was legitimately given--and not on some mere whim.



mitharatowen
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,675
Location: Arizona

13 Jan 2009, 12:32 pm

I haven't been here too long but I personally really enjoy this site. Maybe there's some jerks, I haven't really noticed. I only pay attention to what catches my interest.

I am posting on this thread because I thought I'd bring in a bit of a different perspective: In my opinion, this thread is more discouraging to the overall veiw of WP than a few flame wars. I would assume that a newbie who finds flame wars would just assume there are some jerks here and there. But a newbie seeing this thread would feel discouraged about the overall tone of WP since this is what this thread is promoting.

Seems to me like the proper way to advocate change is to make more positive, supporting threads/posts yourself rather than more negative ones.
JMO.



DW_a_mom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,689
Location: Northern California

13 Jan 2009, 12:41 pm

I think all forums struggle with keeping their focus and direction.

And, honestly, it may be harder for an AS forum, precisely because many AS really struggle with social skills, on-line as well as in real life. If someone struggles with understanding appropriate humor in real life, isn't that going to be worse on line? If someone struggles to know when something is meant as a personal insult and when it isn't in real life, isn't that going to be worse on-line? It's hard to imagine any forum being immune to the side effects of the mode of communication.

Compared to my experience at parenting forums, I would say that both AS forums I have visited are blunt and combative. It took quite some getting used to for me, even though I can say I should have expected it. People with AS tend to be more blunt, and also tend to believe very, very firmly in their positions. It's one of those combined blessing/curse things, depending on the situation.

I haven't run around facebook much, so I can't compare to that. Or to anything frequented by teens and young adults; my internet experience is pretty much parents, and we are a different breed to start with, sort of, lol.

But I'm not too worried. This is a great site. It will ultimately self-regulate. A few people will be hurt, but that is the way of life on the internet. I haven't figured out how to prevent that - if I ever do, I'll be sure to let the managers know.


_________________
Mom to an amazing young adult AS son, plus an also amazing non-AS daughter. Most likely part of the "Broader Autism Phenotype" (some traits).