what causes all the weird aspects of a/s?

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27 Jan 2009, 2:43 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
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Our brains are wired the opposite of musicians. We can't distinguish individual sounds, like in a noisy restaurant.


i'm AS and a musician and hear individual layers/sounds in everything...what does that make me then? XD


I'm AS, a musician, I hear individual layers in music but not in situations like a noisy restaurant, what does that make me?


The problem isn't distinguishing sounds IMO. It's filtering. The sound layers are all there, it's just that in a noisy place the background noise draws my attention just as much as the people speaking. It interrupts the process of interpretation. I can't force my brain to ignore the background like an NT. When you listen to a piece of music you don't have to try to ignore the background. You want to hear all the parts at the same time.



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27 Jan 2009, 2:52 pm

Curious... sitting on the floor is an AS characteristic?

My first instinct is always to get a cushion and sit on the floor to read or write. Unless I'm at the computer at the same time or some such, I usually eat on the floor, too; I have done since I was a child.



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09 Feb 2009, 2:56 pm

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it's just that in a noisy place the background noise draws my attention just as much as the people speaking. It interrupts the process of interpretation. I can't force my brain to ignore the background like an NT.


My father is like that. He drives me bonkers. I'll be telling him something crucial and he'll be hearing both what I'm saying and what a kid is screaming in the street without any discernment for relevance and importance. He's autistic, but with very different autistic traits from mine.


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09 Feb 2009, 3:08 pm

Some interesting ideas can be found in this Scientific American article...


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09 Feb 2009, 4:56 pm

I think a lot of the problems of ASDs are due to an inability to understand context and practicalities


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09 Feb 2009, 8:17 pm

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10 Feb 2009, 1:44 pm

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You're right, Jo. That's why it frustrates me to see so many Aspies who believe it's all about learning social skills and that's it. We process information differently, we hear differently, our output will therefore always be different.


Yes but we need social skills because we are a minority in an NT world. These skills will keep us from being seen as different and thus being persecuted for it. I'm biracial but many times I have to tune down my whiteness or blackness depending on who is around me . I wish that I could just be myself but people make this difficult to do. NT's don't have a lot of patience with Aspies. Maybe some day, we'll be in the majority....or maybe Mother Nature is progressing toward that.



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10 Feb 2009, 1:50 pm

pensieve wrote:
Xanderbeanz wrote:
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Our brains are wired the opposite of musicians. We can't distinguish individual sounds, like in a noisy restaurant.


i'm AS and a musician and hear individual layers/sounds in everything...what does that make me then? XD


You've probably taught yourself to do that. Had you not been a musician would you be able to do that? Or maybe this is just one AS trait that doesn't affect you. Just because one or even most people with AS are affected by something, doesn't mean all people with AS are.


Maybe I can explain that...

I can hear the individual layers in a musical piece and enjoy them individualy and as a combined score. But when it comes to a mashing of sounds that make no musical presence and are just noise pollution of no real musical value, I can't seperate one layer from the next and it just starts to overwhelm me. I think that has to do with beats and melodies, and how music is mathmaticly structured and follows beautiful patterns and rhythms.



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10 Feb 2009, 1:58 pm

Xanderbeanz wrote:
Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Our brains are wired the opposite of musicians. We can't distinguish individual sounds, like in a noisy restaurant.


i'm AS and a musician and hear individual layers/sounds in everything...what does that make me then? XD


Same here....my inability to deal with background noise in restaurants and such has nothing to do with not being able to distinguish between sounds, but rather, that I'm hearing ALL sounds EQUALLY clearly, and therefore become massively overwhelmed.