Vaccines

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I'm not saying it's scientifically proven, I'm just stating that I don't feel it has any benefit, from second-hand experience. My aunt got one of those flu shots a year or two ago, and she ended up being sick for 2 months.

And the Flu is simply one of those things you can't immunize yourself from - there are so many different variants and such, that it's impossible to vaccinate from them all. Besides, it's natural to get the flu.

Your concerns are not trivial in relation to vaccines. I do not believe vaccinations cause autism. The belief that vaccinations can exaccerbate a child's autism has logic considerating many have issues with chemicals and foods.

Why don't you research vaccinations delivered homeopathic methods. This method is more expensive, but preferred by many parents.

Spread the vaccinations over a longer period and break up the MMR into single Vaccine delivery, not three at once. These are suggestions only, but gives you some alternative options too not vaccinating your child.

The flu vaccines don't cause the flu, they use a crippled form of the virus to immunize the body against it, so the patient receiving the vaccine may exhibit very mild flu like symptoms if their immune system is already weakened.

Which is why you're not supposed to have most vaccines (not limited to the influenza vaccine) when you're not in perfect health or when your weakened health/chronic illness isn't taken into consideration.

If you do, it's most likely your fault for not informing yourself accurately and the fault of the doctor who didn't inform you or lied to/deceived you or the fault of a doctor for not discovering that you have some sort of chronic illness (which may again be partly your fault for not going to a doctor regularly).

And there are 2 versions of the flu vaccine too. The one for everybody and the one for healthy people at certain ages. One contains the killed virus and the other one contains the weakened virus as you said.

So if you get the wrong one, someone messed up and it's likely for one of the reasons I stated before. There are always exceptions, of course.

flu vaccine, greatest investment ever next to saving your own stem, cells

Vaccines causing autism is a really good example of post hoc ergo propter hoc. Baiscly, because the signs of autism start to show at around the age most people get vaccines, it is assumed that the vaccines caused this. A good counterexample is simply adults getting the flu shot. If vaccines caused autism, the flu shot could cause autism in adults, but the flu shot hasn't caused autism in adults, so vaccines cannot cause autism.

Wow. That's such incredibly false logic.

True, but it gets the point across.

I think you are asking a lot of common sense questions. Why it all got sped up and combined has never been properly defended from a medical perspective, that I've heard, and that seems to be where the real controversy lies.

It depends on where you live, but many places have removed thimerisol (mercury) from vaccines. My state has been free of it for quite a while, and there has been zero effect on the rate of autism. Studies are consistently showing no connection between the additive, removal of it, and autism rates. I don't memorize the names and dates and links like many here do, I just carry the net result of what I've read in my head: no connection.

Still, there are parents who feel very strongly about a vaccine - autism connection. I've read one poster at this site who felt it was true for them; the rest - probably hundreds against the one - say it isn't possible. It could be a timing coincidence, based on when autism symptoms typically appear; it could be that the symptoms were made obvious by a side effect; it could be that a mimic condition arose. I state my beliefs and what my research has led me to, the beliefs of those I trust to have understood the science best, I state my fears of the bad treatments these beliefs can lead to, and then I back out. It isn't my fight. My kids were both vaccinated before I had a clue my son was on the spectrum, and all the signs from birth became so clear to me once I read up on it all, and the genetic history is there, so it just isn't relevant to me.

Still, if I had it all to do over, knowing all that I do now, I would slow it down and ask more about ingredients for the specific vaccine lots used. I believe in vaccination, but I also believe our little ones are exposed to way more toxins than can possibly be good for them, and no one knows how that will all play out, long run. May as well do what we can to reduce that exposure in all the small ways readily available to us.

She "noticed"? What does this word not mean? It does not mean that there were no autistic trails before she notice those. The most vaccinations are made today in a very early age, prior any really noticeable behaviour pattern related to autism. I do not want to go here to much into the details of the causes of autism, but all evidence point into strong a genetic direction, by all means a link between anything after the conception and autism is relative unlikely.

Thank you for your honesty from one mom to another.

I see your point. But I have talked to a guy who has Aspergers and seven children and most of them have varying positions on the spectrum. His theory is that those with this disorder have a higher chance of having problems when vaccinated with the chemicals that are in the concoctions. I could see where this thought may have some merit.