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02 Feb 2009, 8:52 pm

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I don't think it will really make a difference. Help is offered to those who have severe dyslexia. I've talked to people with severe dysleix online, well, tried to because I could never understand what they wrote and they couldn't tell that they had made a mistake.
I have a lot of symptoms of both dyslexia and dyspraxia according to that list, but I didn't get diagnosed with dyslexia.
I'm not sure if it was a matter of be being under a lot of stress and having anxiety, or if it was that I was too mild to be diagnosed. I remember the person that tested me saying that if I was diagnosed all they could offer was coping strategies, which I would eventually work out on my own.
Just remember if you get tested that stress, anxiety and depression can give you dyslexic-like symptoms.

These days I just like to think of my dyslexic/dyspraxic symptoms as something that comes from having AS.


Were you, by any chance, taught to read and write by the old-fashioned method of synthetic phonics, as I was? That is probably why spelling is generally second nature to me but the flip side of that is that it makes dyslexia more difficult to diagnose; I have literacy issues which relate to the BDA Adult Dyslexia Checklist as posted earlier but it is difficult for a human spellchecker to be taken seriously as a dyslexia case, regardless of the other aspects.

Yes, I was. Is there a new method? I was slow to learn how to read and write. At 5 I was reading simple worded books, whereas my brother at 5 would read books I would only start to read at 8 or 9. I remember I wrote backwards, wrote b's as d's or vice versa, and had a hard time understanding what I read. But the latter could have been because I couldn't block out background sounds, and so couldn't concentrate.



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02 Feb 2009, 9:54 pm

I had an interesting time in a CS exam today, I almost wrote expect as sqxect, but corrected myself after q.

I was taught with the older method, the newer method is horrible and is confusing my 5 year old brother, and he shows no signs of dyslexia at all. I am good enough at catching my mistakes as I write and type, thank God for that, but I just wish there was a way it would be easier for me not to make mistakes.

If they can have my profs disregard minor spelling mistakes, especially in regards to CS, I woul definitly get tested... Time to book an appointment with my advisor for students with disabilities.



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02 Feb 2009, 11:04 pm

I usually write orange as ornage so much that ornage feels like it's the correct way to spell it.
I need to invest in a portable spell checker. Those are about $100.



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02 Feb 2009, 11:50 pm

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I usually write orange as ornage so much that ornage feels like it's the correct way to spell it.
I need to invest in a portable spell checker. Those are about $100.


I actuallydo the ornage and onrage thing for orange when typing... and did it just there trying to type the actual word, but ornage was fine... probably because I had to think about it.



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03 Feb 2009, 3:30 pm

I just got diagnosed with dyslexia 2 weeks ago and I'm 19. If you're in uni then its definately worth it. you get the option of more thinking time in exams, a computer with dyslexia friendly software, extended library loans and the option of putting these little stickers on your assignments, which prevents tutors from marking you down for spelling and punctation errors. Everythings helped me lodes; just wish i'd been diagnosed earlier, could have done so much better at secondary school.

But yeah, definatley go for it, doubt you'll regret it.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:19 pm

Padium wrote:
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I usually write orange as ornage so much that ornage feels like it's the correct way to spell it.
I need to invest in a portable spell checker. Those are about $100.


I actuallydo the ornage and onrage thing for orange when typing... and did it just there trying to type the actual word, but ornage was fine... probably because I had to think about it.


Typos may be dyspraxic because of the physical coordination involved, though I think it is common to have both dyslexia and dyspraxia.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:29 pm

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I don't think it will really make a difference. Help is offered to those who have severe dyslexia. I've talked to people with severe dysleix online, well, tried to because I could never understand what they wrote and they couldn't tell that they had made a mistake.
I have a lot of symptoms of both dyslexia and dyspraxia according to that list, but I didn't get diagnosed with dyslexia.
I'm not sure if it was a matter of be being under a lot of stress and having anxiety, or if it was that I was too mild to be diagnosed. I remember the person that tested me saying that if I was diagnosed all they could offer was coping strategies, which I would eventually work out on my own.
Just remember if you get tested that stress, anxiety and depression can give you dyslexic-like symptoms.

These days I just like to think of my dyslexic/dyspraxic symptoms as something that comes from having AS.


Were you, by any chance, taught to read and write by the old-fashioned method of synthetic phonics, as I was? That is probably why spelling is generally second nature to me but the flip side of that is that it makes dyslexia more difficult to diagnose; I have literacy issues which relate to the BDA Adult Dyslexia Checklist as posted earlier but it is difficult for a human spellchecker to be taken seriously as a dyslexia case, regardless of the other aspects.

Yes, I was. Is there a new method? I was slow to learn how to read and write. At 5 I was reading simple worded books, whereas my brother at 5 would read books I would only start to read at 8 or 9. I remember I wrote backwards, wrote b's as d's or vice versa, and had a hard time understanding what I read. But the latter could have been because I couldn't block out background sounds, and so couldn't concentrate.


As far as I know, while I was being taught synthetic phonics in the early 1970s, most other schools had long since abandoned it in favour of other methods, such as learning to recognise whole words by shape.

I have the background noise problem too, by the way. I think that is another comorbid - Auditory Processing Disorder



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03 Feb 2009, 7:30 pm

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I don't think it will really make a difference. Help is offered to those who have severe dyslexia. I've talked to people with severe dysleix online, well, tried to because I could never understand what they wrote and they couldn't tell that they had made a mistake.
I have a lot of symptoms of both dyslexia and dyspraxia according to that list, but I didn't get diagnosed with dyslexia.
I'm not sure if it was a matter of be being under a lot of stress and having anxiety, or if it was that I was too mild to be diagnosed. I remember the person that tested me saying that if I was diagnosed all they could offer was coping strategies, which I would eventually work out on my own.
Just remember if you get tested that stress, anxiety and depression can give you dyslexic-like symptoms.

These days I just like to think of my dyslexic/dyspraxic symptoms as something that comes from having AS.


Were you, by any chance, taught to read and write by the old-fashioned method of synthetic phonics, as I was? That is probably why spelling is generally second nature to me but the flip side of that is that it makes dyslexia more difficult to diagnose; I have literacy issues which relate to the BDA Adult Dyslexia Checklist as posted earlier but it is difficult for a human spellchecker to be taken seriously as a dyslexia case, regardless of the other aspects.

Yes, I was. Is there a new method? I was slow to learn how to read and write. At 5 I was reading simple worded books, whereas my brother at 5 would read books I would only start to read at 8 or 9. I remember I wrote backwards, wrote b's as d's or vice versa, and had a hard time understanding what I read. But the latter could have been because I couldn't block out background sounds, and so couldn't concentrate.


As far as I know, while I was being taught synthetic phonics in the early 1970s, most other schools had long since abandoned it in favour of other methods, such as learning to recognise whole words by shape.

I have the background noise problem too, by the way. I think that is another comorbid - Auditory Processing Disorder


Background noise helps me keep my sanity, but it also makes me less productive. Short term loss for long term gain.



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04 Feb 2009, 5:16 pm

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Typos may be dyspraxic because of the physical coordination involved, though I think it is common to have both dyslexia and dyspraxia.


My problem seems to be something like this, and I make the same typos over and over again. The funny thing is, when I write the words on paper, it comes out fine, so it´s only when I´m typing. There are certain words that I always have to correct, go back and re-type them again. It can be quite time consuming.


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04 Feb 2009, 7:24 pm

I can misspell words by hand too.



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04 Feb 2009, 7:29 pm

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I can misspell words by hand too.


How often is that when you are aware of the actual spelling though?



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04 Feb 2009, 7:30 pm

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I had an interesting time in a CS exam today, I almost wrote expect as sqxect, but corrected myself after q.


By "write," do you mean by hand, or typing? Because it is actually normal to switch letters around as you are typing- sometimes you just strike the keys in the wrong order. Lots of people have said to me, "I think I might have mild dyslexia, because I switch letters when typing"- well actually, everyone does that. Some errors, like "teh" for "the" are actually so common that some people online type "teh" on purpose as a joke. Then there is "pwn" for "own." Hence you get someone writing, "I am teh pwnage!"


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04 Feb 2009, 7:33 pm

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I had an interesting time in a CS exam today, I almost wrote expect as sqxect, but corrected myself after q.


By "write," do you mean by hand, or typing? Because it is actually normal to switch letters around as you are typing- sometimes you just strike the keys in the wrong order. Lots of people have said to me, "I think I might have mild dyslexia, because I switch letters when typing"- well actually, everyone does that. Some errors, like "teh" for "the" are actually so common that some people online type "teh" on purpose as a joke. Then there is "pwn" for "own." Hence you get someone writing, "I am teh pwnage!"


That was by hand



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04 Feb 2009, 7:37 pm

Padium wrote:
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I can misspell words by hand too.


How often is that when you are aware of the actual spelling though?


When I proof read. btw I just wrote prrof instead of proof.
When I did exercises in class I would realise that I misspelled words.
I have a journal too, and I've begun to notice a few misspelled words in my entries. Writing by hand also gives me a massive hand cramp after just writing a full page.



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04 Feb 2009, 7:43 pm

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I can misspell words by hand too.


How often is that when you are aware of the actual spelling though?


When I proof read. btw I just wrote prrof instead of proof.
When I did exercises in class I would realise that I misspelled words.
I have a journal too, and I've begun to notice a few misspelled words in my entries. Writing by hand also gives me a massive hand cramp after just writing a full page.


That is why I generally avoid writing by hand and prefer to type, but my typing is very uncomfortable as I type with two fingers, although it is faster than my writing, and more accurate. I cannot type in class though as I have to look at the keyboard when I type, and I focus too much on the typing itself. I do type between 30 and 40 wpm, so I'm not bad, I just prefer writing while in class. I am going to try a tablet to keep my notes more organized. My computer is my best friend when it coems to writing.



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04 Feb 2009, 7:49 pm

I use two fingers too, with my thumb on the space bar.
One big problem with me is I don't look at the monitor enough to know what I'm actually typing. sO I END UP TYPING LIKE THIS.
It's annoying.