06 Feb 2009, 11:36 pm
Loborojo wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
many are called, few are chosen 
Yeah, I saw that in the Bible too. It's Matthew 22:14. I've often wondered why shamans have nothing original to say or any "Holy" writings of their own to quote from.
you can find wise things in many wise books
I am not religious at all, have been an atheist for 37 years, but when finally I ended up being a channel for entities and and powerfull visions (one last weekend where I was visited by Isis, Shiva, Krishna and some anonymous entities) I left that delusion (gods don't exist thing) behind me. I know from the powere within that they are not delusions.
I ownder what kind of experiences you had to be that dissapointed and call it delusions
Why don't you ask your "entities"?
And while you're at it, ask them to tell you my real name, so that you can post it here for all to see. Go ahead, you and your "entities" have my permission.
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06 Feb 2009, 11:39 pm
Quote:
Fnord wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
many are called, few are chosen
Yeah, I saw that in the Bible too. It's Matthew 22:14. I've often wondered why shamans have nothing original to say or any "Holy" writings of their own to quote from.
you can find wise things in many wise books
I am not religious at all, have been an atheist for 37 years, but when finally I ended up being a channel for entities and and powerfull visions (one last weekend where I was visited by Isis, Shiva, Krishna and some anonymous entities) I left that delusion (gods don't exist thing) behind me. I know from the powere within that they are not delusions.
I ownder what kind of experiences you had to be that dissapointed and call it delusions
Why don't you ask your "entities"?
Fnord...(said with risen and exaggerrated inflection .......)
you behave now........
06 Feb 2009, 11:40 pm
Fnord wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
many are called, few are chosen
Yeah, I saw that in the Bible too. It's Matthew 22:14. I've often wondered why shamans have nothing original to say or any "Holy" writings of their own to quote from.
you can find wise things in many wise books
I am not religious at all, have been an atheist for 37 years, but when finally I ended up being a channel for entities and and powerfull visions (one last weekend where I was visited by Isis, Shiva, Krishna and some anonymous entities) I left that delusion (gods don't exist thing) behind me. I know from the powere within that they are not delusions.
I ownder what kind of experiences you had to be that dissapointed and call it delusions
Why don't you ask your "entities"?
that's a very weak answer and you know it, anyway, I did not open this topic to battle with a sceptic, dellusioned cynical person. I won't spend energy on that
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06 Feb 2009, 11:41 pm
millie wrote:
Fnord...(said with risen and exaggerrated inflection .......)
you behave now........
you behave now........
Miss Millie, I'm just getting warmed up...
06 Feb 2009, 11:46 pm
06 Feb 2009, 11:48 pm
Loborojo wrote:
I ownder what kind of experiences you had to be that dissapointed and call it delusions
Why don't you ask your "entities"?[/quote]
that's a very weak answer and you know it, anyway, I did not open this topic to battle with a sceptic, dellusioned cynical perosn. I don't spend energy on that
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No, I gave a response, not an answer, since you asked no question.
It is your answer that dodges my question.
Go ahead. Ask your "entities" for some real answers to real questions, like What is my real name?
By the way, the words are spelled, "Wonder", "Disappointed", "Skeptic", "Disillusioned", and "Person."
06 Feb 2009, 11:51 pm
This is a really great debate by the way.
I go into trances myself (not spiritually, just autohypnosis). My husband always checks to see whether or not I'm 'present' by using a series of tester statements like "I just pooped in your shoes" to see if I react.
Sometimes it's almost like meditation, other times I just get utterly lost in my interests and it's almost impossible to snap me out of it.
06 Feb 2009, 11:52 pm
Fnord wrote:
millie wrote:
Fnord...(said with risen and exaggerrated inflection .......)
you behave now........
you behave now........
Miss Millie, I'm just getting warmed up...
you are deriding the oldest profession (yeah, it is not prostitution) of the world by ridiculing something that so far has not been understood, let alone researched well enough by sceptic scientists who son't believe what they cannot see.
Those shamanic powers have been so helpful in healing where psychologists or shrinks and classic medicine did not heal, that the USA gives grants to train more indigenous shamans.
You know when you are possessed by some thing...I couldn't even dream up the tongues I speak in daily sobriety, or feel the power of a divinity entering my body the way I do when I am in the other realm...
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06 Feb 2009, 11:52 pm
Dussel wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
you can find wise things in many wise books
E.g. in I. Kant's Critique of Pure Reason or Bronshtein's Handbook of Mathematics.
Not to mention "Mein Kampf" and "The Communist Manifesto."
Many people considered Adolf and Karl to be wise men writing their wisdom in books, but history has dis-proven those fallacies, as well.
Kant and Brohnshtein are two of my favorite realist authors, by the way.
06 Feb 2009, 11:55 pm
Fnord wrote:
Dussel wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
you can find wise things in many wise books
E.g. in I. Kant's Critique of Pure Reason or Bronshtein's Handbook of Mathematics.
Not to mention "Mein Kampf" and "The Communist Manifesto."
Many people considered Adolf and Karl to be wise men writing their wisdom in books, but history has dis-proven those fallacies, as well.
Kant and Brohnshtein are two of my favorite realist authors, by the way.
It is no secret that Hitler had been trained by the Illuminati into the occult powers, they only realised too late that he had chosen to use these for his darker interests later on (yeah darth vaders stuff), he sureley was deluded when he wrote his book
06 Feb 2009, 11:58 pm
Loborojo wrote:
you are deriding the oldest profession (yeah, it is not prostitution) of the world by ridiculing something that so far has not been understood, let alone researched well enough by sceptic scientists who son't believe what they cannot see.
That's "SKEPTIC" and "DON'T"!
Scientists see nothing to shamanism, religion, and superstition because there is nothing to see.
Loborojo wrote:
Those shamanic powers have been so helpful in healing where psychologists or shrinks and classic medicine did not heal, that thee USA gives grants to train more indigenous shamans.
Evidence, Please?
Loborojo wrote:
You know when you are possessed by some thing...I couldn't even dream up the tongues I speak in daily sobriety, or feel the power of a divinity entering my body the way I do when I am in the other realm...
Glossolalia is a common symptom of dementia. It's also called "Blathering Like an Idiot."
You're still using the same arguments used by many religionists in their lame attempts to "prove" the validity of what they practice.
06 Feb 2009, 11:59 pm
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07 Feb 2009, 12:00 am
07 Feb 2009, 12:03 am
Fnord wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
It is no secret that Hitler had been trained by the Illuminati into the occult powers, they only realised too late that he had chosen to use these for his darker interests later on ...
Evidence, Please?
ask your researchers, government (your entities)
, read Lame Deer, find Jocobo Ginsberg,
07 Feb 2009, 12:05 am
Loborojo wrote:
It is no secret that Hitler had been trained by the Illuminati into the occult powers, they only realised too late that he had chosen to use these for his darker interests later on (yeah darth vaders stuff), he sureley was deluded when he wrote his book
This is - plainly spoken - a type of nonsense you find in esoteric groups of the extreme right. Hitler's biography is well known. He got his mad ideas from anti-semitic authors like von Liebenfels, how build their own strange mystic-racist ideology. This was roughly the period when "Arian" had been used the first time outside the description of Persians.
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07 Feb 2009, 12:10 am
