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09 Feb 2009, 1:46 am

Whitetiger, an Aspie Express that runs the length of the PacNW is obviously needed. Just think of all the marooned Aspies that don't drive that would enjoy gathering and listening and being in a group of like kind, no pressure and actually interesting relevant inclusive useful discussion! There must be a way to make this happen.

Today the topic was conflict resolution in communication. We discussed freely at our tables and as a larger group. We could ask questions and bounce off each other's experiences. We could be silent. We could space out or participate or just play with the toys. Roger did a good job keeping the flow on track.

I met some very interesting ppl whose stories resonated on my wavelength. I learned, found it engaging, personable, want to hear more. Cannot begin to express the relief at actually meeting normal ppl!



09 Feb 2009, 2:27 am

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Spokane Girl, I came in late with my partner (we were walking all around the church trying to figure out how to get in, LOL). I'm rotund and my boss is exceptionally fat. Roger had us sit at the round table right in front of him.

What did you talk about? I didn't notice what ppl were wearing.

Yes, I want to come to the next meeting. I have some weird spatial maneuvering deficits so have not learned to drive but my aspie partner drives very well so we'll both be there.

I hope everybody gets this chance if they want it. It certainly dispelled my feeling of being alone with my issues. I'm in the process of getting a formal diagnosis and the psycho evaluator is being a totally condescending jerk, very prejudiced against autism and just dripping with disbelieving scorn. He won't let me say a word about Aspergers which is exceedingly frustrating because it fits like a glove. So it was oh so nice and validating to finally meet aspies today and for once feel what a comfort zone is like.



We talked about communication and about disagreements we have had with people. I was the one who kept blurting things out (hard to not do it but I try not to). I don't know how late you came in. I guess I was oblivious. I know one guy showed up late around five. Then I was quiet towards the end of the meeting. I had nothing to say. I had my head down too and I made a comment about the blonde girl leaving and the other lady said "This isn't school." All I said was why was she leaving.

Wait, were you the ones who showed up and sat down at an empty table and Roger made you guys move to a table with people?



09 Feb 2009, 2:31 am

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So, there wasn't anyone who ignored people? People who couldn't talk (even if they do have speech)?



I didn't pay much attention. I don't think everyone spoke but we all said our names. We were all high functioning I think but I don't know any of them well so I can't judge where on the spectrum they are at and what they can or can't do. I know one of them lives in a group home because I have spoken to her once in summer of 2007. She was Furball here and she got attacked by two members and was called a troll. She also went to a camp and was a counselor there. So she is maybe between high and low functioning.



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09 Feb 2009, 2:35 am

Yep, that was us, and I think I might remember who you are ... at least I remember somebody putting their head on the table and somebody blurting rather enthusiastically ... so you're the "Blurter Zonker" ... and naturally we chose a table with nobody there but Roger herded us right in front. *grin* so we've figured out who we all are by the quirks :) Looking forward to seeing you in a month!



09 Feb 2009, 2:43 am

Roger is pretty picky about his group, only wants people on the spectrum there and wants upcoming newbies to call him first before they come. He also doesn't allow people to come in and observe us like we are animals. He has gotten calls from college students asking if they can come and observe our behavior and he says "no." But luckily he doesn't restrict where you have to live to be there. He told us about a new group that was found in our area but you have to live in Washington County unfortunately. Luckily he doesn't have us prove our AS to join and he welcomes self diagnosers. He isn't too concerned about people coming in claiming to be AS. He said it hasn't happened yet and another lady asked me why would people want to have AS and I said I don't know and then I said people might fake having it so they can come to the gathering. I wasn't accusing anyone there faking it, I was asking if he was afraid of fakers coming. Everyone at the table laughed when I asked him "Are you afraid of fake aspies coming in?"

But he is also open. He lets us leave anytime we want and we can come anytime we want during the hours. We can get up and walk around, we can do our own thing. I notice he is scattered mind. He told me one thing last time and then said the other this time.



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09 Feb 2009, 9:08 am

That sounds like a good meeting. There are none anywhere near where I live, but I'd go if there were.

Danielismyname wrote:
So, there wasn't anyone who ignored people? People who couldn't talk (even if they do have speech)?


I once attended a meeting for AS adults where about a quarter of the group never said a word, including me. I couldn't even bring myself to look up. One of the others gave us grief for not participating. I didn't return.



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09 Feb 2009, 9:16 am

I had a very hard time talking at the AS meeting I went to.
It seemed to be for adults and teens.
Kids were in a separate area.



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09 Feb 2009, 9:23 am

I'm glad you had a good time, I'm kinda jealous, I never hear about anything like that in Michigan!


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09 Feb 2009, 9:41 am

There seemed to be quite a number of older adults there last night. The facilitator said nobody had to speak if they didn't want to. Perhaps the older one gets the more one finally wants to bust through and express him/herself. At my table we could have talked all night. We hit a groove we were all jiving on. We were talking about how ppl around us don't like to follow directions or instructions, don't want to see a map or read a simple manual to do a procedure correctly or follow verbal cueing. It was extraordinarily validating. Get us together and gee, it's the NTs that are the freaks :lol:



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09 Feb 2009, 10:46 am

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I'm in Eugene and I would love to meet Roger Myers. About 3 years ago, I emailed with him and he helped me come to terms with my diagnosis. I would love to get a ride to the Portland group if anyone else from Eugene is going!


and to pick me up in Salem along the way, I have gas $$! !

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09 Feb 2009, 10:59 am

There was one lady who talked about how her son was in the hospital and he needed his pills so she stopped at the pharmacy on the way and dropped off the prescriptions and told them her son was in the hospital and he needs them. An hour and a half later, they still weren't ready so she cut in line and said she had been waiting for over an hour and complained to them. I thought it was ridiculous of the pharmacy but Roger had an excellent TOM about what could have happened and explained how the pharmacy works. He talked about what "being in the hospital" could have meant to them and all the other people who were in line needed just as urgent attention for their medicine and if her son needs the medicine, they have it right there in the hospital and will give it to him. Then he talked about how we think about our own problems when something comes up and we don't think about other people and what could their problems be. Seems like a everyone problem to me. :?

I honestly don't always know what is the AS and what isn't.



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09 Feb 2009, 1:35 pm

I was surprised that nobody else at my table had heard of Wrong Planet except of course my housemate. They were all glad to hear there was a lively forum. They wrote it down. Maybe they'll lurk and then post. The folks at my table seem to have very busy lives so I don't know how much time they have for research. Student, business owner, worker, healthcare manager, etc.



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09 Feb 2009, 1:43 pm

That's awesome that you guys (Cascadians and Spokane_Girl) almost met! Lol
I want to meet someone from here! I am curious to see how I would get along with an autistic person.



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09 Feb 2009, 2:41 pm

i really wish i could find a similar group in my area....this part of ontario is surprisingly and disappointingly behind when it comes to aspie support groups. i haven't been able to find any within a couple hundred kilometres of here. seems there are groups for everything but aspergers here :?



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10 Feb 2009, 11:37 am

Yes, I too was curious to see if other auties / aspies would like me better than NTs, or there would be more of a connection, or some recognition, or getting along easier. I was so relieved to find instant rapport and commonality.

It's not that I don't get along with ppl but just that they sense something "different" and avoid me, unless they're bullies and mistake my kindness for weakness and try to target or attack. I'm learning to disallow those bullying behaviors and put a stop to the cruelty.

I think of Aspergers as "Ass-Purgers" because my mere presence brings out the ass behavior of jackasses and exposes them quickly for the jerks they are.