Subconscious Verbal Thought Process - talking to self,

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26 Feb 2009, 3:30 am

I do the practise-conversations thing. I have several favourite conversations that I like to revisit over and over again. Actually I just like repetitive thinking in general. Sometimes I talk to myself to reason things out, but most of the time when I try to do this my brain just gets stuck on the words. Like I have already had the thought in some other medium, but can't yet translate it. I think with sensations and directions, mostly.



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26 Feb 2009, 4:26 pm

Hi,

i just want to say i do this all the time. Sometimes to a point where people have to shout at me to bring me back to "this world". I love it, but of course it has a bad side. It makes it quite difficult to pay attention to class.



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27 Feb 2009, 4:58 pm

I constantly narrate (in my head) what is going on around me or in my life. I don't think that it is exactly a NT trait. Sure, all people think to themselves, but I think that the way a lot of aspies do it is unique to the spectrum. IMO.



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27 Feb 2009, 5:32 pm

I call all of this my "internal life".

LuckyBunny wrote:
unreal3x wrote:
LuckyBunny wrote:
I normally have a recipient. Somebody who I am fully aware is not present, but it's more like a practice session for an intended conversation that may never happen. I always walk, however. I don't just sit down somewhere and natter to nobody. It's only when I am walking alone. [...]

There have been a couple of times I almost slipped, though. During a two-way conversation once, one of the topics I'd previously 'discussed' with the person came up. I actually began a sentence 'Remember I said to you...', before remembering that such a memory would not exist, as the prior conversation had never happened.

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Thats pretty much it (aside from the singing), a person will represent a problem, and I will be talking it through with them. Like if I have a problem with a car, a mechanic or a guy who is into cars will be who associated with the problem. I know they are not their, I don't even exactly picture them, its like some sort of symbol, also they don't directly ask questions, its as if the instance of the question is there, and then I answer to them. [...]

Or sometimes in a social situation in real life, if someone said alot to me, and I did not respond correctly or if at all, then later I'll just be talking to my self about it and I eventually come up with the right things to say (but its too late). Its just strange that I don't do it on purpose, or directly think about whats happening, it just subconsciously happens. Its not like in the movies where some guy will be standing in the mirror purposely saying out loud different things that he might try to say to a girl, because it just happens for ever under my breath about anything or nothing of my thoughtful choice. Its also interesting that it happens to some people on here, and not others, yet we have the same condition, manifested in different ways? Like there are people who think visually, musically, etc. For me it may be some sort of verbal thought process, I don't know.


I'm thinking about this quite deeply. Perhaps it is actually some sort of release. I can't really speak for anyone but myself, but I'm thinking what if it is a way to express what I am not expressing in two-way conversation?

A way of resolving the conflict between what I want to tell someone and what I actually do tell them. I still get to say my piece, even if it's not directly to the person I want to say it to. [...]

A way to throw ourselves at barriers that won't be overcome?

Thoughts......?

((((hugs))))

~Loving Light~

What was said in those two posts is exactly me... And I experimented the same with being a little drunk.

For exemple, I try those times to speek (again) with my mum about Asperger to confirm and learn some new things about my childhood, to explain her what AS is, why it's important for me to understand, why I think I have this... When alone I can speak out loud and clearly what I want to tell (or imagine in it my head... and can do the questions and the answers !) and could do it for hours ! But when she's around I just don't know how to begin the talk... And even if I know that my speaking will being confused, that I'm going to forget somethings, to become frustrated being interrupted and my thoughts interpreted, find her questions or answers just to stupid, simply lose my ideas... Difficult to explain.


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02 Jan 2016, 1:24 pm

I read Temple Grandins book, "Thinking in Pictures". She said that autistic individuals have different ways of thinking. They have any of the three thinking (pictures, patterns and words) or combinations of them. She said that individuals on spectrum think with the subconscious, hence anything is conscious and they never have emotional repressions or conversion disorder. Personally, I have both huge internal monologue and vivid visual imagination, but I have some lack of pattern thinking.


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02 Jan 2016, 4:40 pm

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Thats pretty much it (aside from the singing), a person will represent a problem, and I will be talking it through with them. Like if I have a problem with a car, a mechanic or a guy who is into cars will be who associated with the problem. I know they are not their, I don't even exactly picture them, its like some sort of symbol, also they don't directly ask questions, its as if the instance of the question is there, and then I answer to them. [...]

Or sometimes in a social situation in real life, if someone said alot to me, and I did not respond correctly or if at all, then later I'll just be talking to my self about it and I eventually come up with the right things to say (but its too late). Its just strange that I don't do it on purpose, or directly think about whats happening, it just subconsciously happens. Its not like in the movies where some guy will be standing in the mirror purposely saying out loud different things that he might try to say to a girl, because it just happens for ever under my breath about anything or nothing of my thoughtful choice. Its also interesting that it happens to some people on here, and not others, yet we have the same condition, manifested in different ways? Like there are people who think visually, musically, etc. For me it may be some sort of verbal thought process, I don't know.

I do all those things as well.



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03 Jan 2016, 7:51 am

This is not weird. In fact, it's quite common. Especially with people who live alone. It's called inter-personal communication!


I don't know where this stupid notion came from where talking to yourself makes you crazy.

Perhaps because crazy people talk to someone who isn't there but crazy people crap also. Does that mean that all people who crap are crazy? As long as you know you're externalising your own thought and not talking to someone who isn't really there, you're in good company!


I talk to myself all the time (and to my kitty). As long as you don't start having arguments with yourself, you're alright.

It's called Inter-personal dialogue - whether internal or external

It's quite normal and although we don't like to admit it, we all do it (except for the brain dead - NOW THEN, you've got something to worry about)!

Even wikipedia says it's common and normal! (a bit like picking your nose - but no one likes to admit to that either but these are all normal animal traits! And most do it!)

SO THERE'S YOUR ANSWER


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03 Jan 2016, 7:56 am

Talking to onself


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Your Aspie score: 151 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 60 of 200

Formally diagnosed in 2007.

Learn the simple joy of being satisfied with little, rather than always wanting more.