Another hate group rises in the guise of "support group

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There's people who have had bad experiences with Aspies but I have had sooooo many bad experiences with people in general. You can apply a lot of what's listed by the OP to the people I have to deal with everyday who are not AS. This is what confuses me. It seems like so many people act like this anyway. It's a worldwide human epidemic. I doubt very seriously if they are all Aspies.

This is how someone who hates AS people would perceive them. If you hated cheerleaders, you wouldn't describe their good sides, just ridicule them as shallow, ignorant, gossiping, emotional vampires narcissistically focused on getting admiration and attention for their appearance.

The description of AS below describes them in a hostile, negative spin, as seen through the eyes of hate and hostility.

Let's assume there is no link between Asperger and Sociopathy:
.DSM-IV tells me that 2% of the population are Sociopaths(APD)
.The Swedish National Autism Society tells me 0.4-0.5% of the population have asperger.
With help of some basic math, that would make:
USA: 30 000 Aspie Sociopaths
UK: 6000 Aspie Sociopaths

.Studies refered to by Dr Tony Atwood shows that aspie males are 3% likely to commit a violent assault, while non-autistic males are 7% likely.
With that into account:
USA: 13 000 Aspie Sociopaths
UK: 3000 Aspie Sociopaths

Newspapers have plenty to choose from, they seem to love to write about this minor part of population and think asperger has something to do with it.
I know these are very round numbers, but don't be fooled....

I think that a lot of it has to do with ignorance of the general population.

You need to remember that not ALL of these men that FAAAS and ASPIA are refering to are officially diagnosed. Most of them aren't. Most of them don't think they have AS, but their wives/ex-wives certainly think that. It could be that these women don't understand the difference between "controlling, distant, abusive husband" and someone with AS. They misinterpret the DSM, and think that "lack of empathy" means "being an abusive jerk". If their husband happens to be an abusive jerk, then they have this convenient 'mental disorder' to place on their husbands and make themselves look like even bigger victims in the eyes of their friends.

"Celebrity doctors" like Tony Attwood take full advantage of this phenomenon. Tons of shrews willing to buy his books, and let's face it: Parents and spouses of people with AS (or suspected AS) are bigger markets than the actual people with AS themselves. Most people with AS don't care to read official books on the subject, simply because they've heard it all before.

I am getting fed up with neurotypicals saying thwt we are more prone to violence. If anyone thinks that just look outside any pub on a Friday or Saturday night you see neurotypicals acting like prats or being violent when pissed as farts. Actually being a neurotypical makes one more prone to violence and hate especially those NTs at the lower end of the Bell curve of intellectual ability. These actually go out to look for Asperger syndrome people to beat up especially after a few beers or a few lines of coke or. some other illegal drug. People should stop saying this about us aspies and get their facts right and stop lying about Aspies. I know an Aspie woman who is a lovely person who would not harm a fly so why do neurotypicals not get their facts right?

Another hate site created by rich yuppies who expect everybody to be like them, and especially their lovers. First there was Autism Speaks and now there's this. I wonder how many people on that so-called support site beat and abuse their AS partners. They probably all do that. The way that a battered person responds is by using violence, themselves. Now they have to twist it all around and blame the aspies, when they're the ones in the wrong. I think that many NTs hate us, because we're different from them. If they find out that you're on the spectrum, they hate you even more.

What bugs me is that they're describing people who behave badly, which happens, but they're calling it AS, when it's got nothing to do with AS. Their approach means someone who is like that but not AS is more likely to get away with it, because "he's one of us".

I mean, the description reminds me of my dad, but he's not AS. He is, however, a rather old-fashioned husband and father.

It's the behaviour that's the problem, not the diagnosis (real or not).

I was gonna join their bulletin board, only to find that I need to pay 9 bucks to join, Autism Speaks isn't even that cheap, WTF?

The really worrisome thing to me is this new generation of diagnosed Aspies.

a 15 year old Aspie (finally!) gets a boy/girlfriend. The b/girlfriend googles Asperger's and discovers this information. Now the teen has to answer for it, or possible just get dumped because of it.

It really hurts people. This is badness.

I'm,reminded of a song by The Smiths,

Well, obviously there are Aspie jerks. There are NT jerks, too. But saying we're all that way, or any more likely to be so, is false. Communication problems, yes. But willful meanness, lack of empathy, or total lack of desire to understand people you married? No, that's not an Aspie. That's a sociopath.