ouinon wrote:
What would you say you use as chief navigation tool/guide for getting through life, ( if not language )?
I don't know what's the first instance into which my perception is translated. I shall think about that some, never did that before.
ouinon wrote:
And when you say "issues" with language what do you mean, if not those of relying on it for guidance and/or being "under its control"?
I do know that what I perceive is not directly connected to language, because sometimes (or often) when I, for example, perceive something visually I can't quite name it. I know what I see because I can store it into my memory, I remember it and I automatically come up with various sensory information about what it feels like, what it sounds like and such but I do not know the word for it at that moment.
I also say such stuff as 'get me the thing' or 'the huge white box in which it is cold'
I have perfect, pedantic language in some conversations, but at other times, I'll totally mess up with grammar. And at yet another time I might not be able to get a word out at all for reasons that have nothing to do with anxiety (feels more like I can't find the langauge centre of my brain in that moment).
Why I said 'issues' there is also because I also have a very ambivalent relationship with language. I grew up in a perfectly normal (or not so much because it was better than average in many aspects) household in which family was talking a lot, but despite that I developed language on-time and despite that my language was well, I never acquired the many cultural meanings that there are to words.
Probably in some strange way related to that, the emotional power of words is lost on me. I discovered that I have a thing for using it on others, but words rarely (I do not want to deny that all words mean nothing to me, but since I currently cannot think of any that would cause me to be emotional in some way, I'll say 'rarely') mean something to me. 'I love you' 'I hate you' 'I'm hungry' - from what I know about language and how normal people process it and what reactions it causes in their neurology, such sentences are connected to immediate emotional reactions/measurable neurological activity. I don't know if my brain would show anything in an MRI, but I sure can't find any difference in me when I say 'I want you dead' or 'I like chocolate cookies'.
There's more, but I can't remember right now. Scatterbrained day today, sorry.
Point is, language is alien to me though I often am awesome at it and seemingly a natural, it hardly fits my perception and I have trouble to administer it correctly for that or other reasons.
ouinon wrote:
Is it possible that the distinction between Aspergers and the rest of the Spectrum on the basis of "No language delay", is significant in this context, in that maybe some people, ( Aspergers ), rapidly become very dependent on language, use it as essential "prosthetic" for navigating life, ( to make up for lack of body language signals ? ), which is why they are so often hyper-sensitive to its use/misuse, and others, ( HFA and/or LFA ), don't, or can't, perhaps because it, ( the framework of experience which it involves ), is too fundamentally at odds with their own experience, ( or perhaps because their brains have more trouble with such a system of "representation"/symbolisation for things , ), and as a result language is experienced as another layer of pressures/forces to deal with on a daily basis?
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I wonder about that. I for one did not have a delay, but acquired langauge fast.
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03 Apr 2009, 10:17 am
Did you mean that sarcastically? If not then the answer is that in the 18 months I've been reading and posting on WP I've seen dozens perhaps hundreds of posts mentioning it!
