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20 Apr 2009, 9:43 pm

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Hm, I'm curious what constitutes a psychotic break. If you feel like explaining your experience I'd appreciate it. Is that actually losing touch with reality and having delusions or simply becoming extremely depressive or low functioning or something?


Basically, I had delusions, where I thought stuff like I was empathic, people could read my mind, I was an angel, etc... I had some hallucinations, but never voices in my case, more like well words being put into other people's mouths if that makes sense, basically the person has to be around and I think they are saying one thing when in fact they are saying something different, extremely rapid cycling bipolar symptoms, going from extremely depressed to extremely euphoric and back again within an hour or even minutes when I was really bad, severe panic attacks, extreme sensory flooding (especially hearing), all at the same time. I became very low functioning too, my mind was so messed up, I couldn't comprehend simple things like television shows, almost wrecked my car, couldn't work at all, etc...


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20 Apr 2009, 11:40 pm

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First Asburger syndrome, and now McDDs? @_@

I'm noticing a pattern here...


lol
MacDonald's Disorder
Maybe hamburgers are the cause of Autism. Maybe Autism Speaks will start propaganda over this new idea.
Sorry I'm just joking.


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21 Apr 2009, 12:35 pm

Then there is this disorder that someone on another forum pointed out to me when I described my childhood and adult symptoms that I sound like her son with Multidimensionally Impaired Disorder, very similar to McDD, but with more emphasis on the psychosis I guess, I don't know:

http://www.geocities.com/abnormaldiversity/MDI.html

And here is a nice paper on several disorders, including McDD and MDI, which the paper admits is very similar:

http://www.scielo.br/pdf/rbp/v28s1/en_a03v28s1.pdf

I resemble MDI without the learning disorders.


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21 Apr 2009, 12:59 pm

My boyfriend thinks I have schizophrenia, and I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder, as well as Asperger's Syndrome (but it's probably PDD-NOS rather than AS). Just wait till my boyfriend sees this; he'll say I have it!



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21 Apr 2009, 1:07 pm

x_amount_of_words wrote:
SabbraCadabra wrote:
First Asburger syndrome, and now McDDs? @_@

I'm noticing a pattern here...


lol
MacDonald's Disorder
Maybe hamburgers are the cause of Autism. Maybe Autism Speaks will start propaganda over this new idea.
Sorry I'm just joking.


I have the serious giggles now :lol:


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22 Apr 2009, 1:28 pm

I have almost all of the symptoms of this. Im diagnosised with aspergers with adhd and schizoaffective with mostly manic and negative symptoms. I dont really have severely disorganized speech and only mild and rare hallusanitions and not too much anxiety or depressive symptoms and a few of the autistic symptoms are missing but i have all the other ones. I have severe alexithymia too and can hardly read or express facial expressions and body language. Does anyone know where in seattle they might diagnosis this? Ive been told by a p-doc before that i have this but he was unable to diagnosis anything outside the dsm.



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20 Aug 2010, 5:28 pm

I actually got this. I've recently got it. I found info about it and printed everything out and gave it to the persons who do my psychological examination (or what it's called in english) and they like "we need to read more about this 'cause this could be the answer". 'Cause both they and others before them have been really puzzled about me and now I found the answer (with help from this place). So I will start to get a treatment plan when I can see a doc.



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20 Aug 2010, 5:55 pm

MONKEY wrote:
x_amount_of_words wrote:
SabbraCadabra wrote:
First Asburger syndrome, and now McDDs? @_@

I'm noticing a pattern here...


lol
MacDonald's Disorder
Maybe hamburgers are the cause of Autism. Maybe Autism Speaks will start propaganda over this new idea.
Sorry I'm just joking.


I have the serious giggles now :lol:

I thing one of the symptoms is hunger pangs, followed by tummy aches after consuming



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20 Aug 2010, 10:16 pm

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If one is to later develop a psychotic break, then he/she should receive the diagnosis of schizophrenia or bipolar (seperate from Asperger or autism). The dividing line should remain.


Thank you equinn. I had autistic symptoms as a child, as far back as age 2-3. I had all the signs of an autistic disorder but no-one ever diagnosed it as such. I've always stimmed, rocked back and forth, all my life. I had "little professor syndrome", I talked in a pedantic manner. I did not play with other children. I never had psychotic symptoms as a child.

Only later, when I was 22 did I have a psychotic break with reality. I don't have these psychotic symptoms anymore, but at the time a doctor diagnosed me with schizophrenia. Only after I got the schizophrenia diagnoses did I get any help from the mental health system, and I was diagnosed with PDD-NOS later, after I had my psychotic break.

I KNOW I have schizophrenia AND autism.


Ayuh. The key difference between Autism and Schizophrenia, is the first is life long, as in early onset or born with, may only improve as far as symptoms, though there is debate over it's the symptoms improving, or learned adaptations, and the second comes on later in life, often quite suddenly. There is a reason the two were considered related many years ago. They are no longer considered related at all, but there are combined cases. I was unaware of an actual DX that includes the two.

Rather interesting that Google turns up nothing related, other than this thread.

HMMMM... :scratch:


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20 Aug 2010, 11:12 pm

I don't see why we need MCDD; there's no purpose served by that diagnosis that isn't served by a dual diagnosis of autism and schizophrenia. But the combination, I suppose, can be interesting.


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20 Aug 2010, 11:15 pm

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HMMMM... :scratch:


And by that I mean: Is this for real? I really don't mean to be rude, but I've seen these kinds of jokes played before. I honestly want to know why I'm not able to find anything about this to verify the reality of it.

I find nothing about it on the web, except this post. I do not find it in the DSM.

Where, please, is there verification for this DX?


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20 Aug 2010, 11:22 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_c ... l_disorder

It's not in the DSM because it's not been defined well enough to try to make a diagnosis. Still kind of an experimental diagnosis at this point.


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20 Aug 2010, 11:22 pm

Definitely should see a different doctor. Both are quite different, and it says it's a RESEARCH term, so yeah, not official.

As for the symptoms that may be related in the wikipedia article, some people suffer from these symptoms from Epilepsy. Epilepsy can cause psychosis and many other symptoms listed there. It would be horrible to have someone put down as schizophrenic when they really suffer from a mild form of epilepsy! Epilepsy would damage the brain if it went untreated!


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20 Aug 2010, 11:24 pm

Never mind. Finally found it. Odd that it should be that hard to find. Thank you Angnix. Somehow I missed those links.


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20 Aug 2010, 11:25 pm

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Definitely should see a different doctor. Both are quite different, and it says it's a RESEARCH term, so yeah, not official.

As for the symptoms that may be related in the wikipedia article, some people suffer from these symptoms from Epilepsy. Epilepsy can cause psychosis and many other symptoms listed there. It would be horrible to have someone put down as schizophrenic when they really suffer from a mild form of epilepsy! Epilepsy would damage the brain if it went untreated!
Definitely; differential diagnosis is important. And if you have epilepsy *and* schizophrenia, you can probably count on confusing the doctors for a while before they figure things out.


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29 Aug 2010, 10:21 pm

Hmmm yes it is an interesting diagnosis for someone like me who have both schizophrenic and autistic symptoms.

When I was young I was scared of the dark and I was creative and an artist, but the art that came out of me was terrible, a lot fo death and blood. Anyway I saw things also, that didnt exist in reality.

I think it is a very relevant diagnosis, because it fits me, period.


Also it is important because someone like me who has autistic traits and schizophrenic traits should not be dealth with in the same category as people who are schizophrenic. Autism has been my saviour. I can basically save myself from the terror of schizophrenia thanks to knowledge about my autism. It is a life choice and it can save your life.