Compassion and empathy to a lot of nuerotypicals

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AnAutisticMind
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06 May 2009, 9:24 am

wow....i really apologize marshall and to everyone else i might have offended.........i am a very positive person and boy it didnt come easy, i was probably the most negative person here when i was young.one thing i learned about being negative, IT DONT DO A DAM BIT OF GOOD, life can be better lived if one has positive direction no matter how bad it sucks

a little about me;

for the last 20 years i have counseled people on financial matters....i have made such a difference in so many peoples lives as they have done for me................who could ever have thought i would be interacting with so many people in a career..........it was darn hard at first trying to figure people out, then i finally saw that people are fairly simple, nice folks and not too difficult to figure

people have more personal and financial problems than you would ever believe.i have seen everything and every type of person you could imagine.people have opened up to me and told me things that would make a sailor blush, lol..............one gift i have is my beautiful, soothing monotoned voice that puts people at ease and comfort, and it was all learned, but it was inside a little bit too

for the past few years i have been counseling parents of autistics and special needs children..........the emotional, psychological, physical, and spiritual burdens of these families are so deep and bewildering. then comes the financial burdens...........OMG, not only do these families suffer from what i said above, but they have to bear BONE CRUSHING FINANCIAL BURDENS that make you cry................f****, i pay $3000 per month in therapy and medical bills for my autistic son...........luckily, i can handle that.but i see so many families headed to bankruptcy...IN A COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO CARE ABOUT AUTISTICS AND THEIR FAMILIES....AND I AM DAMN F****N MAD ABOUT IT



as far as my op, like i said, half the people on this earth are beautiful towards us, the other half ain't

we must learn to deal with them, learn from them, pity them, and make them look like fools in a gentlemenly way

they ain't goin away, we can do better

all my posts here are only out of love and concern............may you only have pleasant dreams and i thank you


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06 May 2009, 2:13 pm

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i feel only pity for those people who:

- accuse someone of being a jerk for pointing that they are failures at life and why they are that way.

- assume that ambition means being successful at the expense of others when it actually involves a lot of hard work and dedication to a singular goal.

- are ignored by successful people and consider it being stepped on.

- do not share equally in the wealth of the successful people they work for and consider it being exploited.

- take on a cynical "sour grapes" attitude about success one day and then suck up to successful people the next.

- take out the anger for their personal failures on those who have already surpassed them in every aspect of life.


This coming from an NT. How and high and mighty of you. Not that I agree entirely with the statements of the opening poster, but your statements are awful. Don't assume that just because someone is ASD that they have no value or opportunities at success.

where in my post did i say anything about people with asd's? why do you assume that i was referring only to people with asd's?

when i referred to people i meant people. everybody equally and all of the time. i personally know only 3 self-admitted aspies. all of the rest of the people i know i assume to be nt's unless otherwise informed. even then nobody gets any special treatment unless it is required to compensate for their disability.

are people with asd's disabled? not the ones that i know personally.

the truth is often awful to bear for those who do not accept it.



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06 May 2009, 6:11 pm

iMark wrote:
CelticGoddess wrote:
iMark wrote:
i feel only pity for those people who:

- accuse someone of being a jerk for pointing that they are failures at life and why they are that way.

- assume that ambition means being successful at the expense of others when it actually involves a lot of hard work and dedication to a singular goal.

- are ignored by successful people and consider it being stepped on.

- do not share equally in the wealth of the successful people they work for and consider it being exploited.

- take on a cynical "sour grapes" attitude about success one day and then suck up to successful people the next.

- take out the anger for their personal failures on those who have already surpassed them in every aspect of life.


This coming from an NT. How and high and mighty of you. Not that I agree entirely with the statements of the opening poster, but your statements are awful. Don't assume that just because someone is ASD that they have no value or opportunities at success.

where in my post did i say anything about people with asd's? why do you assume that i was referring only to people with asd's?

Since your comments appeared to be barbs directed in response to something written by someone claiming to have an ASD it could easily be assumed that you were addressing that person in a somewhat veiled manner. I can't see any other purpose in the stuff you said in the context of this thread. And I'm the one that's supposed to lack "theory of mind". :roll: Since you claim to be NT I'll assume that you were indeed trying to offend and now you're merely attempting to backpedal.

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when i referred to people i meant people. everybody equally and all of the time. i personally know only 3 self-admitted aspies. all of the rest of the people i know i assume to be nt's unless otherwise informed. even then nobody gets any special treatment unless it is required to compensate for their disability.

are people with asd's disabled? not the ones that i know personally.

the truth is often awful to bear for those who do not accept it.

That attitude expressed right there is precisely the reason for all the bitterness around here. The idea that everyone has to work in a way that fits into a neat a little box and anything else is "special treatment". That we should always operate on the social Darwinist model of weeding people out for minor flaws that could easily be accommodated for while ignoring their obvious strengths and abilities. Nobody should do jack sh*t, ever, unless they are forced to by law. And the price of all this is constant mediocrity.



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06 May 2009, 6:31 pm

iMark wrote:
CelticGoddess wrote:
iMark wrote:
i feel only pity for those people who:

- accuse someone of being a jerk for pointing that they are failures at life and why they are that way.

- assume that ambition means being successful at the expense of others when it actually involves a lot of hard work and dedication to a singular goal.

- are ignored by successful people and consider it being stepped on.

- do not share equally in the wealth of the successful people they work for and consider it being exploited.

- take on a cynical "sour grapes" attitude about success one day and then suck up to successful people the next.




excuse me gentlemen, my thread was not intended for a p****ing contest.............i thanf you both for your consideration in advance

- take out the anger for their personal failures on those who have already surpassed them in every aspect of life.


This coming from an NT. How and high and mighty of you. Not that I agree entirely with the statements of the opening poster, but your statements are awful. Don't assume that just because someone is ASD that they have no value or opportunities at success.

where in my post did i say anything about people with asd's? why do you assume that i was referring only to people with asd's?

when i referred to people i meant people. everybody equally and all of the time. i personally know only 3 self-admitted aspies. all of the rest of the people i know i assume to be nt's unless otherwise informed. even then nobody gets any special treatment unless it is required to compensate for their disability.

are people with asd's disabled? not the ones that i know personally.

the truth is often awful to bear for those who do not accept it.


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06 May 2009, 6:33 pm

mark and marshal.my thread was not intended for a peeing contest......i thank you for your consideration in advance


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23 Mar 2021, 4:32 am

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Should this message be taken as a heavy dose of sarcasm?


not at all, i deal with people so much that i actually pity a lot of the poor devils

But why have empathy for those who harm you? Whether or not they are hurting inside they also have a choice.


because they are shallow and weak................always try to outsmart them, learn from them, pass them. and then rub their noses in your s***, but do it with class


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:bigsmurf: this necrothread is 12 years old. but otherwise it is fine. ;)



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auntblabby wrote:
:bigsmurf: this necrothread is 12 years old. but otherwise it is fine. ;)


Yes but nothing like a bit of necromancy to brighten up an otherwise boring day!



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24 Mar 2021, 6:09 am

Earthbound_Alien wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
:bigsmurf: this necrothread is 12 years old. but otherwise it is fine. ;)


Yes but nothing like a bit of necromancy to brighten up an otherwise boring day!

indubitably 8)