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22 Jul 2010, 4:00 pm

For what its worth, having worked hospital reception, maybe Sean should try calling the hospital she is at to confirm she is a patient.
maybe that would stop this speculation on wither she is actually sick or scamming him, either way I can understand the pain and turmoil
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22 Jul 2010, 4:08 pm

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i dont mean to go all sherlock on ya'll but i remember reading a post before with him showing a picture of the gf and saying she'd said she wore a 32A bra- the girl in the picture definately did not. this was before any of the cancer scare and i remember thinking there was something shifty about it even then. I'm abit worried about this sean fella getting taken advantage of:/


I noticed that too.. thats what I meant. Also the dark haired girl in the pictures looked really quite different from the petite brunette in other threads.

The fact you brought this up now has really got me thinking.

I do want to help Sean out if the case is legit but I want to investigate further.



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22 Jul 2010, 4:42 pm

Well since we're on the subject on further investigation...

The girl has a myspace page correct? One could take a look there just to confirm that there is something wrong with the girl. Not that it couldn't possibly be faked, but surely people will have all kinds of "get well" messages and what not there that might help add validity to the situation.

Honestly nothing short of seeing her official diagnosis from an actual doctor will make this 100% and asking for that is probably considered an invasion of privacy.

Friskeygirl, calling the hospital to confirm patient XYZ is there and her condition is a good idea, but Sean has already mentioned she is at home currently. It could only be done on the day of the surgery.


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22 Jul 2010, 4:46 pm

Friskeygirl wrote:
For what its worth, having worked hospital reception, maybe Sean should try calling the hospital she is at to confirm she is a patient.
maybe that would stop this speculation on wither she is actually sick or scamming him, either way I can understand the pain and turmoil
he is feeling


I believe he wouldn't be able to do that until she was actually admitted to the hospital. Then they can only state what floor or unit she might be in. It's illegal for them to release any medical information/records without a signed authorization/release from the patient.
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That's why I suggested he have her get a diagnosis from her physician typed up on his professional letter-head and signed by him which he could post on the charity website. Medical Board of Indiana could be contacted as well as his medical office.



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22 Jul 2010, 4:48 pm

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Friskeygirl wrote:
For what its worth, having worked hospital reception, maybe Sean should try calling the hospital she is at to confirm she is a patient.
maybe that would stop this speculation on wither she is actually sick or scamming him, either way I can understand the pain and turmoil
he is feeling


I believe he wouldn't be able to do that until she was actually admitted to the hospital. Then they can only state what floor or unit she might be in. It's illegal for them to release any medical information/records without a signed authorization/release from the patient.
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That's why I suggested he have her get a diagnosis from her physician typed up on his professional letter-head and signed by him which he could post on the charity website. Medical Board of Indiana could be contacted as well as his medical office.

whos asking for records, people still do send flowers and will call reception to confirm a patient



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22 Jul 2010, 4:50 pm

Maybe any pathology/lab reports wouldn't hurt to have either.



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22 Jul 2010, 5:11 pm

Friskeygirl wrote:
Taupey wrote:
Friskeygirl wrote:
For what its worth, having worked hospital reception, maybe Sean should try calling the hospital she is at to confirm she is a patient.
maybe that would stop this speculation on wither she is actually sick or scamming him, either way I can understand the pain and turmoil
he is feeling


I believe he wouldn't be able to do that until she was actually admitted to the hospital. Then they can only state what floor or unit she might be in. It's illegal for them to release any medical information/records without a signed authorization/release from the patient.
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That's why I suggested he have her get a diagnosis from her physician typed up on his professional letter-head and signed by him which he could post on the charity website. Medical Board of Indiana could be contacted as well as his medical office.

whos asking for records, people still do send flowers and will call reception to confirm a patient


Please read my comment above.



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22 Jul 2010, 5:23 pm

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OneStepBeyond wrote:
i dont mean to go all sherlock on ya'll but i remember reading a post before with him showing a picture of the gf and saying she'd said she wore a 32A bra- the girl in the picture definately did not. this was before any of the cancer scare and i remember thinking there was something shifty about it even then. I'm abit worried about this sean fella getting taken advantage of:/


I noticed that too.. thats what I meant. Also the dark haired girl in the pictures looked really quite different from the petite brunette in other threads.

The fact you brought this up now has really got me thinking.

I do want to help Sean out if the case is legit but I want to investigate further.


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22 Jul 2010, 5:41 pm

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two of her photos look kinda different too actually >_< I hope she is telling the truth but I so think its wise to get as much information as possible.


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22 Jul 2010, 6:00 pm

If it looks like a scam, smells like a scam, and quacks like a scam, then it probably is a ...scam.



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22 Jul 2010, 6:05 pm

Going to try to get a copy of the diagnosis letter then or some such similar document.
If proof is so required, i will do my best to obtain it.


about the bra size thing that's just what size she said she wears btw. It's not impossible that she's simply wearing the wrong size, for all anyone knows, she stuffed her bra in that pic, it happens. in fact in that post i was actually kinda inquiring if people thought she might be wearing the wrong size from her pics if anyone does recall :roll: .
As for difference in pictures, she does photoshop a little to optimize the lighting, colors. etc. and does dye her hair occasionally, straighten it alot, and wear makeup, all of which can slightly alter appearance. Aspies are known for faceblindness i believe, but i for one can pick out her distinct facial features in each of those, if that means anything. I even posted up 5 pictures of myself and some member on here said they looked like 5 different people, so that some people can't tell that her pics are just one person either hardly tips any scales as far as my belief goes. I've heard her on the phone on several occasions, we've been texting literally several hours a day, every day for about 7 months now. I'm convinced beyond any doubt that she is a real person, and an honest one.
Even if the cancer were hypothetically fake, i think it's simply ludicrous that any normal person would have the patience to pull off charade of that magnitude. Setting up a myspace, texting up to 6 hours a day for that long, getting multiple people in on it, all of it.
It's not even something she'd need to lie about for attention. I actually give her oodles of attention as is. The relationship also hasn't been rocky at all or dull for those of you who've said she may just be trying to opt out by faking death.

As some people have said, if you don't trust it, that's fine, simply don't donate.
But it is simply maddening to me considering i didn't even start this to have my my hopes brought up so high by some progress, just to have it shot down again when likely verity of the problem would make it so serious a matter.
It was frustrating enough with just troll infestations. It's not like a plane ticket costs multimillions either. Maybe i'm just a bit emotional right now, i don't care if people don't believe me, but please don't insult me...

& i've prolly just invited more criticism, but i'm not sure i give a damn


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22 Jul 2010, 6:29 pm

You don't understand... we are thinking of you, you silly boy. :P

Be careful.



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22 Jul 2010, 6:49 pm

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As some people have said, if you don't trust it, that's fine, simply don't donate.
But it is simply maddening to me considering i didn't even start this to have my my hopes brought up so high by some progress, just to have it shot down again when likely verity of the problem would make it so serious a matter.
It was frustrating enough with just troll infestations. It's not like a plane ticket costs multimillions either. Maybe i'm just a bit emotional right now, i don't care if people don't believe me, but please don't insult me...

& i've prolly just invited more criticism, but i'm not sure i give a damn


Sean, I'm sorry you feel that I and some of the others have shot you down. We weren't the ones getting your hopes up though, and most of us are seriously trying to look out for you.

I don't know what her motives might be. I haven't seen the pictures, so I can't comment on whether it is the same girl. You're right, it would be hard to text someone for 6 months if the whole thing was a scam, but speaking as someone with a bit of medical knowledge, things aren't adding up here. Perhaps in the chain of communication (her doctor to her to you) something got lost or a few facts got forgotten. That's the only thing I can think of to explain it

Otherwise, all I can say is be careful. I have never heard of a doctor diagnosing 'brain cancer' after a patient comes in with a headache for 3 days. For a start, 'brain cancer' doesn't exist. Melbi listed the types of tumours that could be diagnosed on biopsy. Until that point though, they are 'lesions' or 'masses'. It's quite odd for a doctor to use such a simplistic term, unless he or she was really clueless or being incredibly patronising. That she had an MRI itself at her initial consultation is strange if all her symptoms were was a headache and sleeplessness.

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Of course verification is important. This is the internet. It's incredibly easy to lie online and as many people here have attested, scams are very common.

What I honestly don't understand is why it's such a big deal to provide proof of your girlfriend's illness if you wish for people to help. If you are in contact with her all the time, just ask her to get a note from her doctor.

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It's not like a plane ticket costs multimillions either.


On your site you say that you are also hoping to contribute to her family and her treatment.

Maybe a plane ticket doesn't cost multimillions, but can you afford it? No. So please don't act like it's some cheap throw away item. It's expensive. Even if a bunch of people here were to club together to buy it for you, why should the amount matter? It's still their hard earned money. If it is a scam (and it could be because so far there has been no proof provided), then it would still be money better spent elsewhere. That is why people are asking for proof.

I'm sorry, I genuinely don't mean to be harsh here and I know you're distressed. I'm just trying to explain that myself and others aren't trying to dash your hopes, we're just trying to make sure that nobody, including yourself, is being made a fool of here.



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22 Jul 2010, 7:21 pm

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As some people have said, if you don't trust it, that's fine, simply don't donate.
But it is simply maddening to me considering i didn't even start this to have my my hopes brought up so high by some progress, just to have it shot down again when likely verity of the problem would make it so serious a matter.
It was frustrating enough with just troll infestations. It's not like a plane ticket costs multimillions either. Maybe i'm just a bit emotional right now, i don't care if people don't believe me, but please don't insult me...

& i've prolly just invited more criticism, but i'm not sure i give a damn


Sean, I'm sorry you feel that I and some of the others have shot you down. We weren't the ones getting your hopes up though, and most of us are seriously trying to look out for you.

I don't know what her motives might be. I haven't seen the pictures, so I can't comment on whether it is the same girl. You're right, it would be hard to text someone for 6 months if the whole thing was a scam, but speaking as someone with a bit of medical knowledge, things aren't adding up here. Perhaps in the chain of communication (her doctor to her to you) something got lost or a few facts got forgotten. That's the only thing I can think of to explain it

Otherwise, all I can say is be careful. I have never heard of a doctor diagnosing 'brain cancer' after a patient comes in with a headache for 3 days. For a start, 'brain cancer' doesn't exist. Melbi listed the types of tumours that could be diagnosed on biopsy. Until that point though, they are 'lesions' or 'masses'. It's quite odd for a doctor to use such a simplistic term, unless he or she was really clueless or being incredibly patronising. That she had an MRI itself at her initial consultation is strange if all her symptoms were was a headache and sleeplessness.

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verity of the problem would make it so serious a matter


Of course verification is important. This is the internet. It's incredibly easy to lie online and as many people here have attested, scams are very common.

What I honestly don't understand is why it's such a big deal to provide proof of your girlfriend's illness if you wish for people to help. If you are in contact with her all the time, just ask her to get a note from her doctor.

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It's not like a plane ticket costs multimillions either.


On your site you say that you are also hoping to contribute to her family and her treatment.

Maybe a plane ticket doesn't cost multimillions, but can you afford it? No. So please don't act like it's some cheap throw away item. It's expensive. Even if a bunch of people here were to club together to buy it for you, why should the amount matter? It's still their hard earned money. If it is a scam (and it could be because so far there has been no proof provided), then it would still be money better spent elsewhere. That is why people are asking for proof.

I'm sorry, I genuinely don't mean to be harsh here and I know you're distressed. I'm just trying to explain that myself and others aren't trying to dash your hopes, we're just trying to make sure that nobody, including yourself, is being made a fool of here.

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Perhaps in the chain of communication (her doctor to her to you) something got lost or a few facts got forgotten. That's the only thing I can think of to explain it
most likely. I've never even pretended on here to have known everything that went on between her and her doctor. Also i didn't know there's no such diagnosis as "brain cancer", it just seemed a logical choice of words since she told she has a brain tumor. To my knowledge, tumors are usually the result of cancerous cell growth.

& for the record, i never explicitly asked for anything further than just the cost of the plane ticket. I only said that i'd put anything extra that came in toward her medical/family. Plane ticket funds are the primary goal :? .

& i am in contact with her probably more than most people, but it's still difficult to get ahold of her alot of the time. I've gotten only a few calls in the past few days. I've asked about getting a copy of the letter of diagnosis. She said her mom might be able to get it for her. I don't have her mom's number mind you, otherwise i might've just called her. Even then, in my experience trying to get a letter of diagnosis for even just my aspergers, she'd prolly have to schedule an appointment with her doctor first i think to talk about that, then some more time for it to be written up and sent to her. It's not like you can just chat up your doctor and request things and get them instantly on a whim as far as i know. But then again, i haven't been to every hospital and reviewed every place's policies, maybe there is indeed someplace with a convenient drive-thru window to pick up such things at short notice :? .
But in any case, i will try to get the papers as soon as possible.
In the meantime i might just be able to get more information on the tumor itself if she knows it off-hand: location, stage, cell-type, etc. if that helps


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22 Jul 2010, 7:30 pm

We aren't trying to critisise you Sean you have my full support if this is real and I do want to donate.

But I am extremely poor like many other aspies here and $20 could by my food for a week and I want to make sure its going to a decent cause.

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Because the girl in the blue singlet and the girl in the middle - breasts aside - do not look like the same person to me although it may be the fake tan, the expression and the angle, but it's important.

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Would you say they're twins? I wouldn't even say they're sisters.

I wouldnt mind seeing the myspace - whether its private or not, I won't do anything I no longer have a myspace account anwyay. Whichever way this does turn out, it's not Sean's fault at all. He did not suggest donations and its the girls fault if shes using someone elses pictures
I'm not saying she isn't real, you've obviously been texting a girl etc but the pictures, those ones especially, raise alarms.

OTHERWISE, I do wish you all the best.



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22 Jul 2010, 8:16 pm

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Perhaps in the chain of communication (her doctor to her to you) something got lost or a few facts got forgotten. That's the only thing I can think of to explain it
most likely. I've never even pretended on here to have known everything that went on between her and her doctor. Also i didn't know there's no such diagnosis as "brain cancer", it just seemed a logical choice of words since she told she has a brain tumor. To my knowledge, tumors are usually the result of cancerous cell growth.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor

That's what I mean; she told you tumour, you told us cancer.. maybe her doctor told her something completely different before that and she misunderstood?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you a liar; the terms are confusing which is why most doctors try to avoid using words like 'tumour' and 'cancer' in the first place these days, unless absolutely certain. because people get very worried (although since it's in the brain, it may still be significant, even if not malignant)

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& for the record, i never explicitly asked for anything further than just the cost of the plane ticket. I only said that i'd put anything extra that came in toward her medical/family. Plane ticket funds are the primary goal :? .


OK, but it kind of looked like you were also aiming to get more than that, just from what you've written; "if at all possible, to go above and beyond, and, with some luck, pull up enough funds maybe to also chip in towards the medical costs, or just towards her family during the difficult recovery process"

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But in any case, i will try to get the papers as soon as possible.


That would be helpful.

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In the meantime i might just be able to get more information on the tumor itself if she knows it off-hand: location, stage, cell-type, etc. if that helps


That would be impressive considering she has apparently not had a biopsy yet. Not to be rude, but without official documentation to confirm the diagnosis, all this would prove is that she has access to a textbook or the internet.

edit: regards the pics, hard to tell just because of the make up etc, but I'm sure Sean has seen more and knows it's the same girl he's been chatting to for the past months.