Do you feel like an outsider, even here at Wrong Planet?

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13 Feb 2012, 9:30 am

Yes, I do. I do feel that, even here, other people are a lot better than I am at socializing and making small talk. I do see groups of friends forming. Still, this place is less unwelcoming than most places are to me.


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13 Feb 2012, 10:25 am

keira wrote:
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Oh, you shouldn't feel like that, auntblabby. Your posts are always welcomed and interesting to read. It seems to me that people really like you here. :)

gosh :) thanx :mrgreen: you know how to make a person smile :)
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I do feel like an outsider but I don't think I care much. Well, most of the time I don't. It took some time to adjust though.

WP to me feels like a great equalizer. or at least a moderate equalizer. as long as i stay away from the "hot aspies threads" i feel alright :)


Maybe we should rename that thread. Really it's just a pictures and chat thread.


"Hot aspies" might not like it. /jk


Well they have their beauty to cushion the blow :P


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13 Feb 2012, 10:37 am

Moog wrote:
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keira wrote:
Oh, you shouldn't feel like that, auntblabby. Your posts are always welcomed and interesting to read. It seems to me that people really like you here. :)

gosh :) thanx :mrgreen: you know how to make a person smile :)
keira wrote:
I do feel like an outsider but I don't think I care much. Well, most of the time I don't. It took some time to adjust though.

WP to me feels like a great equalizer. or at least a moderate equalizer. as long as i stay away from the "hot aspies threads" i feel alright :)


Maybe we should rename that thread. Really it's just a pictures and chat thread.


"Hot aspies" might not like it. /jk


Well they have their beauty to cushion the blow :P

:lol:



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13 Feb 2012, 11:10 am

A lot of the time yes. I think partly because I don't have a diagnosis and some people seem to resent those without a diagnosis being here. I shouldn't let that bother me but sometimes it really does. Also when I feel depressed I feel completely out of it on here, but maybe that would be the case anywhere.



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13 Feb 2012, 11:54 am

Sometimes, yes.



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13 Feb 2012, 12:18 pm

I seem to constantly go against popular opinion here, and I feel like I'm the only one fighting against aspie egotism and superiority, and when everyone is in a circle jerk of NT hate and self absorbtion I tend to try pull you folks out.

And because of that, I usually feel pretty alienated.


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13 Feb 2012, 8:48 pm

auntblabby wrote:
this is the first place i didn't exactly feel like an outsider, but i couldn't help but notice that the membership here skews heavily towards the young, and this fact makes me feel old and irrelevant and unwanted. :hmph:


I'm also a bit older than some here, and I've felt that way too...but, I feel less out of place here than most places, so I guess it's a fair trade.

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18 Feb 2012, 2:26 am

Yes, but still, I feel more comfortable here than any other online social site.

I never know how the world sees me unless someone tells me,
but I don't really want to know how I am perceived because I already know that I am callous and aloof. :alien:


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18 Feb 2012, 11:07 am

Phonic wrote:
I seem to constantly go against popular opinion here, and I feel like I'm the only one fighting against aspie egotism and superiority, and when everyone is in a circle jerk of NT hate and self absorbtion I tend to try pull you folks out.

And because of that, I usually feel pretty alienated.


You're not the only one, I just don't say anything about it. Maybe I'm easily amused but it always amuses me when I see somepeople on this forum acting like the "NTs" they're against. I just watch it all and smile :lol: Might sound evil but why stress about the things you can't change.



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18 Feb 2012, 12:30 pm

I was a bit unsure last time I responded to this but now I can certainly say yeah I feel like an outcast even here.


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20 Feb 2012, 8:11 pm

I agree with you, as if that matters, I too have never fit in anywhere. It's extremely rare when anyone is interested in me or what I have to say unless they can use me for something and discard me later. I only joined recently but it seems WrongPlanet is no exception. I read other peoples views on here all the time, and totally relate, then I foolishly get all excited about finally having friends, and then crushed hopes again when I am again snubbed or criticized yet again. I have not had more than one reply to any of my posts, and they are rarely replied to on any forum. I try really hard to be a nice loving open-minded non-judgmental person, because it's really probably all I have to offer, but nobody cares if you are a nice person, only people that want to use you and discard you. All people seem to care about is your ego, your job, whether you have kids, your prestige, your car, your bank account, your IQ. If you have anyone of those things to brag about, you probably won't give a stuff about anyone else, and people will love you for it. Arrogant bastards get more out of life, while sweet souls are roasted on the spit. Going to say more on this subject, but really, WTFP? :(



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20 Feb 2012, 8:54 pm

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I too have never fit in anywhere. It's extremely rare when anyone is interested in me or what I have to say unless they can use me for something and discard me later.

you are not the only one.
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I only joined recently but it seems WrongPlanet is no exception. I read other peoples views on here all the time, and totally relate, then I foolishly get all excited about finally having friends, and then crushed hopes again when I am again snubbed or criticized yet again. I have not had more than one reply to any of my posts, and they are rarely replied to on any forum.

remember, your posts have to compete against 10s of THOUSANDS of other posts! lots of things get lost in such a crowd. and when you feel criticised, you should first consider the source. AFAIC, if it is not the angel gabriel himself that alights on my doorstep and tells me to my face that i suck, then i wouldn't feel too bad about the natterings of lesser folks.
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I try really hard to be a nice loving open-minded non-judgmental person, because it's really probably all I have to offer, but nobody cares if you are a nice person, only people that want to use you and discard you. All people seem to care about is your ego, your job, whether you have kids, your prestige, your car, your bank account, your IQ. If you have anyone of those things to brag about, you probably won't give a stuff about anyone else, and people will love you for it. Arrogant bastards get more out of life, while sweet souls are roasted on the spit.

this earth is not known [in spirtualist circles] as a "hellworld" for nothing. when you see evil around you, your first moral duty is to [strive to] not be evil, to not succumb to the evil status quo. just keep being a sweet soul and you will be on the right side of things. we may be in this world but we should not be OF it. we are all spiritual beings having an human experience, only lots of people forget about the spiritual part of it. :idea:



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20 Feb 2012, 9:17 pm

Thanks auntblabby for being a light in this great darkness. :)



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20 Feb 2012, 9:35 pm

lotusblossom wrote:
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Sometimes, but who cares? Does anyone here actually know you? If they're only responding because you have 453,343 posts, or because they know you have autism, what losers. Seriously.


I think you're reading in. I'm not talking about belonging to cliques or being a forum celeb or anything silly like that. Just feeling... connected.

I feel a yearning to 'belong' somewhere, and for a richer social experience than I can provide for myself. I think that making this thread helped me come to acceptance. I think I'm just looking for something that isn't here.

yeah I think everyone feels like an outsider, esp people on the spectrum.

Ive always felt I was not meant for this world, like my life was a mistake, and seperate and not belonging. I thought when I found out about aspergers it would be at last a place I felt I belonged but it was not. I would even say that I felt more of an outsider in the aspie community (esp aspievillage.org) than I have in some other places.

It has often made me doubt my diagnosis as I thought how could I have aspergers when Im so different to them.

I think acceptance of being alone and acceptance of aspergers is a long ongoing process.

I found touching the earth meditations (where you visualise your interbeing and connectedness to all life and animals and mountains) very helpful in making me feel less alone and apart.


People tend to forget I think that being on the Syndrome doesn't automatically make people understand you any better, regardless of whether or not they share your diagnosis. Accepted sure, but understood, undeniably no.

I think in actuality it is sometimes more difficult to understand someone with your diagnosis because you have developed coping skills to interact with NT's, despite having similar social, learning, and sensory profiles. You can come to an sympathetic understanding sure, and having the same condition makes camaraderie perhaps easier to establish, but in the end if the personality of that individual clashes with your own how can you expect for form a friendship?

I have a cousin that is living with us right now with AS like me and often times I find his communication break-downs awkward, even though I have them too, just not as often.

I can sympathize, especially on the depth of loneliness oftentimes felt. I've come to accept many forms of it and if anything has allowed me to become more self-reliant on myself for happiness. I think accepting loneliness/solitude and coming to terms with it can as a result open you up to experiencing things and appreciating them more saliently as well as being more flexible.



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20 Feb 2012, 10:57 pm

yes I do feel like an outsider but I feel that we are all outsiders grouped together. I quite like that WP is not a very emotional place and so people don't keep exchanging hugs and kisses and love and all that which to me seems so cheesy on other forums on other websites. we are all alone together here and there is enough space for all. anyway, this is how I feel about WP at this point.



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20 Feb 2012, 11:05 pm

I feel like WP is not a forum for going back and forth bantering with the other posters and being bestest friends with each other all manygether. To me, it's more like the forum where I can read about other people's experiences and write what comes to mind about the topics of the threads without worrying about enemizing someone against me for life or being considered a freak, weirdo, psycho, psychofreako, freaky weirdo, or weird psycho.