Optimism and Reality: Goldfish21 Response to me

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No one is calling anyone out, insulting, or belittling them. I responded to someone else' post about ASS-P, who was mentioned as an example on the 11th page. The thread is about cubedemon6073's post to me.

No one has said sweet F all about SSDI, positive or negative. We've only been civilly discussing differences of opinion & approach to life. The OP chooses to research statistics to the nth degree & uses stats to justify decisions not to bother trying things, or to feel better about not being able to accomplish things etc, whereas I view them as self destructive mind pollution that serve no good purpose towards achieving one's own personal goals.

You are wrong. Apology accepted. Merry Christmas.

Or the third option.. less thinking of either type & more actual doing of anything that will affect positive change in the direction one wants to head in order to accomplish something.

I've read that,but I feel that may not apply to all autistic people as pertaining to individual case scenarios.

Real World rewards results not effort.



Employers choose who they will hire. Other countries allow who they will to enter. The laws influence what actions I am allowed to take and will take. Yeah, I'm depressed. And? So f*****g what. Depression, negativity, paranoia. It doesn't matter how I feel. Reality is just that, reality. It is independent of how I feel. Existence is primacy. Consciousness is not. Maybe the only exception is in quantum physics in which by the mere observation of a particle influences it. But, other then that, that's it.



Again, it doesn't matter what my thoughts are except that they must conform to reality as reality is best understood.

"If a problem has no solution, it may not be a problem, but a fact - not to be solved, but to be coped with over time." - Shimon Peres (1923 - ), 9th President of the State of Israel

In other words, it assumes there are any actions I am capable of doing that will affect positive change. Even if there is, it assumes I know it and even if I know it in theory I understand how in specific and algorithmic terms how to execute it.

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Ashariel, Goldfish isn't being insulting to me and I'm not to him.

Okay then! Sorry about that... Carry on

I'm sure you've heard the phrase "perception is reality," before, ya? Many NT's are so good at acting & portraying themselves as ____ that others perceive them as they intend them to be perceived and they maintain their social status as such.

As for our own perceptions of reality, I learned from a speech by a hypnotherapist that there are, at any given moment, approximately 13 Million pieces of data available for us to process all around us. We're capable of processing 150 pieces of data per second. So, you and I standing side by side in the same physical space will have completely different accounts of what reality is for us in that moment due to the specific 150 data points per second each of our brains pick up on and process. Also, our thoughts and emotions and reactions to things will differ. We'd both definitely be in the same reality, but my reality will definitely differ from yours because my perception of things will differ from yours, and further my reactions, thoughts, and emotions about what I perceive will also differ from yours.

"Reality" varies from person to person, moment to moment, depending on our perception & interpretation of it.

Damn Dude, that really makes so much sense! Not being facetious. That's a lot to think about.

Goldfish, you explained it better and I can accept things you say when you explain it with reason and logic. Everything you said is based in reason. Each person is unique in their genetics and experiences.

Now, with all of this being from my perception then it would be better if the message by you and others is presented as follows.

Whether you feel negative or not you need to learn to PROJECT a positive and optimistic attitude about things. Others are more likely to respond better to your PROJECTION of a positive and optimistic attitude then a defeatist, negative and failure type attitude. And, the more you project it and the more you receive positive output back from others the more positive you will actually become. And, if you project it to yourself you're more likely to start on things. Even if you don't see how it will work or see how you can do it set that feeling aside. I can say I did that with an example for myself. I did not believe I could jump start a car but when I read the directions I did so successfully. Black terminal with black terminal and red terminal with red terminal. And, these are the specific things you need to do to go about projecting a positive attitude even if you feel at your lowest.

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The message would have come across better to me if you and others in the world would present it in this way instead of this woo-woo, spiritual, The Secret, faith and all of this questionably new age nonsense that means absolutely nothing to me.

It's difficult to break down Being something vs. another into a step by step sequential set of instructions. People are people, not robots. Your little breakdown above seems Ok, though. You get what you give - put a positive vibe out there and you're more likely to get one in return, rinse & repeat. You'll do better and be happier than if you're horribly depressed, negative, and miserable - as if that's what others sense from you, they're likely to avoid you like the plague.

What's been "woo-woo, spiritual, The Secret, faith/questionably new age nonsense" about anything in this thread?

I've never ever said "woo-woo, abracadabra be happy."

Nor have I said you need to tap into The Source & let The Spirits guide you.

Nor have I said anything about The Secret (I haven't read it, btw) - but I do agree that the law of attraction is a real phenomenon, and you just broke it down above by stating that if you put out positivity you're going to attract it back several fold.

I haven't said one thing about faith. I'm not anti-faith, but I'm not exactly big on faith.

AFAIK I haven't said anything that could be considered "questionably new age nonsense," either. Pretty much everything I've said is very basic simple tried tested and true if you approach things thinking you Can do them vs. predetermining that you cannot because others haven't so why bother trying at all, then you're much more likely to achieve them. There's zero sense or logic in sabotaging your potential ability to do something by filling your head with statistics of all those who have failed before you. If you must use statistics, why not use those of the outliers that succeeded? If that guy could do ___ in life, then I can try to do ___ & I just might make it, too! Bogging your mind down with countless anecdotes of failure serves no positive purpose and ensures you're ever less likely to achieve something, and thus I consider that sort of endless research and justification against Trying to be nothing but mind pollution of the worst sort. I'd rather fill my head with tales of great achievements to use as inspiration to strive towards my own "impossible" goals, even IF I never am able to accomplish them. The whole process is infinitely more enjoyable than putting myself down into a negative depressed woe-is-me I'll never accomplish anything headspace. That's no way to live. At all. I'd rather live a life of Trying my damnedest, despite the odds. So far, having a never give up attitude has gotten me through academic challenges, physical ones, life ones etc and there's a zero % chance I'm going to stop now. I don't care if it's my own health, another poker game where I'm down 499 chips to one, or surviving a gnarly storm I didn't intend to get caught in, or completing some work project on time on budget, or moving forward with my new academic goals bit by bit.. doesn't matter. How you do anything is how you do everything & I am never ever, EVER, going to be the type to wave a white flag, roll over and die. f**k that. I'll go down fighting tooth & nail until the bitter f*****g end before giving up. I'm somewhat conditioned to it, now. I enjoy the struggle, the process, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

We try the best we can and accept we cannot control other people and certain situations.

Certain realities are common to all of us. I shouldn't have to point that out.

Not everyone has access to the same opportunities. Let's face it, we don't all have a hand full of Aces in the game of life.

This thread is beginning to look like Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. Rather funny.

Most of my life, I've only had a pair of deuces LOL

Aces? Forget about it! I'm lucky that I've gotten that "extra" deuce.

I was born with but one deuce. I needed outside help, probably, to even talk/communicate.

Basically, I believe in the notion that one's overall state is not static.

What I've done by age 40 wasn't even remotely possible at 30.

But I didn't assume that I would remain at my "age 30" state forever. I knew I would progress beyond that---both actively and passively.

To "give up" at age 30, without taking into account the inevitable possibility that one will progress beyond age 30, seems a rather grim (and probably incorrect) exercise.

I'm using "reason." I'm not using pure "logic."