Since When Do Vaccines have MERCURY in Them?!

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If you're referring to this -

then genetics. That's all. It is an individual genetic mark-up, patterning, composite that each one is born with, including the length of life, inherited illnesses/strengths (incuding immunity). There is nothing random in this - but well designed and orderly in its purpose. It is an allotment. So - while the mercury poisoning of millions of children is underway - not every single child will in fact become ill, and not every single adult will die of accumulative toxicity because there is a pre-program within them that determines their resilience to this most lethal poison.

Griff, all I know is what I've experianced and learned. I don't force my faith on others, if I did I would be saying something completely different right now. Could you stop generalizing please?

I'd also like to point out that there are two children with autism (identical twins) in an Amish community nearby where I live. These kids are *Amish*. No modern appliances, home-grown food, horse-drawn carriage, the whole thing. And no vaccinations. They both have severe autism. Clearly it was not caused by vaccination, however. I know some people say, "Oh, the Amish don't have autism, and it's because they don't vaccinate. Therefore vaccinations cause autism." Well, clearly that argument does not hold water. It's not surprising that the Amish would have different rates of autism, since they are such an isolated genetic community (just like they have different rates of blindness and deafness), but autism definitely exists in the Amish.

don't expect jjstar lo listen to this thing called evidence. She has already made it clear that if a source agrees with what she has already chosen to believe (whether it's vaccines and autism, or appendicitis, or anything) then she will say it's true, if not, then it's an evil lie. It is clear it doesn't matter to her what the evidence for each source is, or the nature of the source, or its biases, or anything other than whether it agrees with her conspiracy theories or not. her sole criterion for whether or not something from the peer-reviewed literature is credible is whether it agrees with her, as she has openly posted.

By the way, jjstar, have you come up with an answer to whether you understand 'different substances have different properties' (different as in 'not the same')? ethyl mercury vs. elemental mercury? or are the names too long for you to read? you might care to consider the difference between hydrogen (a flammable, explosive, light gas) and a hydrogen-rich compound like water, i.e. hydrogen monoxide has different properties than elemental hydrogen.

don't expect jjstar lo listen to this thing called evidence. She has already made it clear that if a source agrees with what she has already chosen to believe (whether it's vaccines and autism, or appendicitis, or anything) then she will say it's true, if not, then it's an evil lie. It is clear it doesn't matter to her what the evidence for each source is, or the nature of the source, or its biases, or anything other than whether it agrees with her conspiracy theories or not. her sole criterion for whether or not something from the peer-reviewed literature is credible is whether it agrees with her, as she has openly posted.

e.g. Since when does salt contain Chloride!! It's a poisonous gas!! !

Who presumably can't be expected to understand fancy scientific terms like "proof".

ETA: Please direct us to any of Doctor Buttar's papers that have been published in peer-reviewed science publications

No, I mentioned that my father credited his life to the system that you were deriding.

This seems incorrect.

My own experiences reflect the opposite. In fact, I have generally found them to be excessively thorough. I have found good professional care to be quite worth the extra time and money. Unfortunately, though, being an imbecile is no bar to practicing medicine, so there is a certain population of "prescription-writers" out there. There is no law, however, that requires you to be cheap.

I do not take issue with this being your "POV." Your use of the term, "belief," however, is telling. Christians have beliefs, too, you know. When they know that their belief is false and lack the moral backbone to say as much, they call it "faith."

No. What I take objection to is your use of extremely dubious sources to support your propaganda, needless to say completely ignoring people when they attempt to explain to you the difference between one compound and another; for example, you're using videos regarding the effects of elemental mercury on brain tissue to prove a point about ethylmercury. I consider this behavior immoral.

I will tell you my opinions on the mercury poisoning theory when I'm am ready to do so.

It is obvious that you are unwilling to be influenced by reason. This is why I have contempt for you.

Apparently. Your disrespect for our values is abundantly obvious.

As you demonstrate rather well.

1) We're Aspies. You couldn't teach us to be manipulative.

2) I don't have a comfort zone.

I'm a progressive liberal, like any sane human being.

No offense, but have you ever actually had an acute life-threatening illness? You get so sick that you're not even yourself anymore. We have a picture of me right before entering the hospital, and I just have this blank, slack look on my face. It's amazingly easy to lose yourself at that point. I doubt I could have implemented any kind of healing process that requires any kind of mental process, like visualization or whatever else you might suggest. And I got really sick, really fast too. Like, the day after the pain started I was going downhill fast. I would not have healed myself without medical care- there is no doubt in my mind. I would have died, and that is not in question. Sure, my body did the healing, but as someone else said, it was after the doctors had cleaned up the mess my body had become.

I'm still waiting for jjstar to give us these wonderful non-medical treatments she wants us to use instead of vaccines, antibiotics, and surgery. I'd love to hear how she'd 'cure' appendicitis, I'm guessing it's some combination of weed and ginger root.

Griff, all I know is what I've experianced and learned. I don't force my faith on others, if I did I would be saying something completely different right now. Could you stop generalizing please?

First of all, do all people living in society HAVE easy access to modern medicine. Did you not see Sicko? There is a huge, huge trend among the people to seek out alternatives (another reason for the advent of the internet, btw - to make the info accessible to all) - and so they are. People are finding that the mind/body connection is the only approach that can be taken when healing and CURING the human organism. The mind rules over the heart and liver - these are the 3 major organs that sustain life and it ALL begins with thought. Thought is broken down into components - memory, cells and nucleus. Within the nucleus of life is the component of divinity and immortality. From this sustenance, beneficience, immunity (protection) - health - is derived - as it sets all organs, limbs, tendons, molecules into positive action, this is the NATURAL way for the mind/body to be. When this is out of balance - dis-ease/dis-order will come in and wreak havoc.

That is NOT to say that we can heal ourselves from all that ails us - right now. Because we're simply NOT there - yet. So - we have to rely on what ~has~ been given to us and what ~is~ available to us. If that is faith (prayer, acts of compassion) herbs, alternative modalities (which some do have merit - such as massage, aromatherapy and energy-type healing), and yes, doctors - of course. There have always been medicine men in every single society on earth. But there is a HUGE, huge chasm between what is offered now in *modern medicine* where the body is singled out separate from the mind and its role in healing and that of the wholistic healer who understands how energy flows, what causes blocks and how one's thoughts influence one's feelings. The mind can heal itself and the body, the *technology* is right there within each of us - it's simply lying dormant until awakened, and in many of us it is beginning to, and we will then teach others how to do this until we all become healers of one another. And that is our destiny.

Can we revoke Aspie status for 'undesirables' like jjstar here?