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20 Jan 2011, 7:13 pm

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How many of you lurk in these forums trying to correct people on technicalities rather than try and uncover something worthwhile ?

Bingo. We have a winner.
That reveals much more than you realise.


I could do that too.

And I knew that to some extent but really, is that the only reason you are here because if it is and the majority of the others in this thread are the same I promise to never come back because then I know this is a complete waste of my time



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20 Jan 2011, 7:14 pm

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But who cares if I cannot separate the anxiety part from the Aspie part. How can you separate two problems that are so entangled with one another ?


They aren't. It isn't about catching you in a technicality. You can't have a "technicality" about describing Aspergers if you actually have it. That's like being a man and making a mistake in describing a penis. Since you don't understand Aspergers and you admit that you make technical mistakes in describing Aspergers then the premise of your argument, that you have discovered a tea that improves the symptoms of Aspergers, must be completely false as you do not even know what the symptoms of Aspergers are. This is all I have been arguing for the past 11 pages.

To be open with you, I no longer think you are a huckster or a spammer. I think you are just confused about what you are afflicted with.



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20 Jan 2011, 7:16 pm

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No, I don't understand Aspergers and I would like to learn more.

If you are trying to get me on a technical argument then fine, you could be correct. But I think I have already written that ad-naseum and if you want me to bow down to all of you that are more technically correct than me then consider this a formal bow down.

How many of you lurk in these forums trying to correct people on technicalities rather than try and uncover something worthwhile ?

I'm thinking that perhaps you have some anxiety problems... and probably not Aspergers. Just guessing of course, but you do seem to want to win some argument here, yet no one is arguing with you. That's not really Aspie like. Just speaking for myself but I hate arguing. I have no points to make. I like to share stuff that fascinates me... and that I have spent way too much time on... and then it turns out that I am boring them to death.

No one is trying to make you wrong here. We are deconstructing :) what you have offered... to the 'enth degree.


I disagree. You are trying to deconstruct. What makes you think all the objections have been valid ?



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20 Jan 2011, 7:16 pm

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I am looking for positive or negative feedback on jiaogulan and whether it has helped anyone else out.


No one else here has tried it, no one else here is interested in trying it. Deal with it.


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20 Jan 2011, 7:18 pm

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But who cares if I cannot separate the anxiety part from the Aspie part. How can you separate two problems that are so entangled with one another ?


They aren't. It isn't about catching you in a technicality. You can't have a "technicality" about describing Aspergers if you actually have it. That's like being a man and making a mistake in describing a penis. Since you don't understand Aspergers and you admit that you make technical mistakes in describing Aspergers then the premise of your argument, that you have discovered a tea that improves the symptoms of Aspergers, must be completely false as you do not even know what the symptoms of Aspergers are. This is all I have been arguing for the past 11 pages.

To be open with you, I no longer think you are a huckster or a spammer. I think you are just confused about what you are afflicted with.


Agreed, I might be confused but everything I read about Aspergers suggests that it is not (even close to being ) fully understood and that makes the premise of most of these objections false in that they assume they understand aspergers better than I do.

Maybe they don't ?



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20 Jan 2011, 7:19 pm

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But who cares if I cannot separate the anxiety part from the Aspie part. How can you separate two problems that are so entangled with one another ?

Do you suggest then so as to stop pissing people here off that I first confirm that I am an Aspie and until then, cease and desist ?

You found a tea that seems to make you feel "calmer." You say it makes you less Aspie as if not being calm is a "symptom" of Aspergers. It isn't.


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20 Jan 2011, 7:21 pm

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I am looking for positive or negative feedback on jiaogulan and whether it has helped anyone else out.


No one else here has tried it, no one else here is interested in trying it. Deal with it.


What else do you know about everyone in this forum what they have done and what they are interested in ?



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20 Jan 2011, 7:22 pm

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I disagree. You are trying to deconstruct. What makes you think all the objections have been valid ?

Deconstructing... as in getting to the bottom of your original assertion.


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20 Jan 2011, 7:23 pm

tall-p wrote:
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But who cares if I cannot separate the anxiety part from the Aspie part. How can you separate two problems that are so entangled with one another ?

Do you suggest then so as to stop pissing people here off that I first confirm that I am an Aspie and until then, cease and desist ?

You found a tea that seems to make you feel "calmer." You say it makes you less Aspie as if not being calm is a "symptom" of Aspergers. It isn't.


I'll give you a definite maybe but does it really matter if its an "official" symptom (as defined at this moment) or whether its something I am afflicted with.



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20 Jan 2011, 7:24 pm

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Agreed, I might be confused but everything I read about Aspergers suggests that it is not (even close to being ) fully understood and that makes the premise of most of these objections false in that they assume they understand aspergers better than I do.

Maybe they don't ?


Yes, they do. They have the condition. The symptoms and thought processes are very well understood if the neuroanatomy is not.

Start here: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-As ... 451&sr=8-1

Then get back to us. :D



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20 Jan 2011, 7:25 pm

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I disagree. You are trying to deconstruct. What makes you think all the objections have been valid ?

Deconstructing... as in getting to the bottom of your original assertion.


OK, I like that



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20 Jan 2011, 7:27 pm

MidlifeAspie wrote:
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Agreed, I might be confused but everything I read about Aspergers suggests that it is not (even close to being ) fully understood and that makes the premise of most of these objections false in that they assume they understand aspergers better than I do.

Maybe they don't ?


Yes, they do. They have the condition. The symptoms and thought processes are very well understood if the neuroanatomy is not.

Start here: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-As ... 451&sr=8-1

Then get back to us. :D


Thanks for the suggestion and I will do as you say but one more question - once the book is completed do you think I will be able to determine whether or not I have A/S ?



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20 Jan 2011, 7:27 pm

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I am looking for positive or negative feedback on jiaogulan and whether it has helped anyone else out.


No one else here has tried it, no one else here is interested in trying it. Deal with it.


What else do you know about everyone in this forum what they have done and what they are interested in ?


Way to miss the point. Just add "and chooses to talk about it", then.


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20 Jan 2011, 7:28 pm

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Agreed, I might be confused but everything I read about Aspergers suggests that it is not (even close to being ) fully understood and that makes the premise of most of these objections false in that they assume they understand aspergers better than I do.

Maybe they don't ?


Yes, they do. They have the condition. The symptoms and thought processes are very well understood if the neuroanatomy is not.

Start here: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-As ... 451&sr=8-1

Then get back to us. :D


Thanks for the suggestion and I will do as you say but one more question - once the book is completed do you think I will be able to determine whether or not I have A/S ?


I think you will be well on your way.



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20 Jan 2011, 7:36 pm

MidlifeAspie wrote:
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Agreed, I might be confused but everything I read about Aspergers suggests that it is not (even close to being ) fully understood and that makes the premise of most of these objections false in that they assume they understand aspergers better than I do.

Maybe they don't ?


Yes, they do. They have the condition. The symptoms and thought processes are very well understood if the neuroanatomy is not.

Start here: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-As ... 451&sr=8-1

Then get back to us. :D


Thanks for the suggestion and I will do as you say but one more question - once the book is completed do you think I will be able to determine whether or not I have A/S ?


I think you will be well on your way.


Thanks. I will read the book and determine whether or not I have A/S.

I am not sure though whether I will come back even if I think I have it. I have to say its been far more negative than positive.



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20 Jan 2011, 8:09 pm

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I am looking for positive or negative feedback on jiaogulan and whether it has helped anyone else out.


I have had jiaogulan tea. It didn't help with my anxiety or calm me at all.