Do you think that virginia Tech killer Cho Seu was an Aspie?

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Really? my dad was 42 and my mum was 33. Not that I'm taking that as an indication that he was.

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Agreed. I worked at Korean-owned business (after the Slovaks who owned it sold it to a Korean family, and I came with it as an employee). A lot of their Korean friends from the various Korean clubs would come around and hang out there, so I got a chance to meet a decent cross section of the Korean community in this town in rural NY. They all seemed pretty nice, if not a little standoffish (which makes them extremely nice for me). They did all seem to push their kids pretty hard to achieve in schools, but it really seems like all immigrants have high expectations of their kids - not just the Asians.

Anyway, I agree that I am going to go out of my way to support Korean business in my area - the few that are around.

It's pretty well documented that rates of autism go up with the age of the parents.

TM1's theory is just his interpretation of this well-documented age correlation.

Was that the Kent State massacre??

No, the Bath School Massacre was in 1927. Kent State was in 1970... Vietnam War protest...

Some Bravo***Hotel invited onto MSNBC. She was going "Oh, I'm so shocked his roomie wasn't killed," and I screamed "WHY WOULD HE?" The evidence shows a variety of possible reasons he would have commited this crime, and none of the motives or causes, as far as I can see, would have resulted in hostility toward a room-mate. Besides, she altogether annoyed me.

IF there is more confirmation than what the great aunt says - maybe it was practice. Sometimes people invent a persona and they think that will get them some respect. It did seem like there were alot of stereotypes of crazy, but real crazy tends to have some idiosyncracies. If this is true - and with the Combatting Autism Act with the requirement of reporting kids even suspected of autism - this could be really negative. And apparently the curebies are pushing that he was probably full of mercury, ect.

Wow, that's totally different from the stereotype of the Asian male in the United States. Growing up here, we're well familiar with the teases and bullying we got. Other kids would assume we're martial arts experts, nerdy and engrossed with computers and video games, and focused on high-status/high-income employment. Asian males are also stereotypically thought of as unathletic and asexual, and this is in stark contrast to Asian females who are stereotypically considered "hot." It's only much more recently that Asian males have been portrayed in mass media as athletic, and even sexual (masculine). The thought of an Asian male with white girl groupies is totally foreign to me. I've never seen or heard of anything like that anywhere else!

That being said, Asians and Asian cultures are not all the same, of course. Korean culture is quite different from other Asian cultures, but to those not very familiar with Asian cultures, the differences get overlooked. And those different cultures also have very different standards when it comes to level of assimilation into American culture, too.

Yes I'm also a second-generation Asian-American male. But not Korean, and not from the American South.

Yes I think that he was an Aspie or HFA. From what I've read:

- his speech was delayed to the point where his parents feared that he wouldn't speak
- he was bullied in high school
- his parents were worried about his inability to make friends
- his classmates laughed at his speech impediment
- he had irregular sleeping habits (not unusual in college though)
- he avoided eye contact
- he avoided conversation
- he arranged the bullets for the picture
- his manifesto was very organized with pictures/video inserted with the text
- his voice was a monotone while he raged in his video...he didn't sound particularly upset
- his facial movements while raging in his videos were extremely limited...he didn't look upset.

Many spree or serial killers are loners because they have a big and dark secret in their hearts.
Aspies and Auties tend to keep to themselves because we do not have the "speed" or Mental
agility to deal with other peoples spontaneity or unpredictability.

Sounding like he was either HFA or schizoid at this point. I keep having to change my assessment. The research on these disorders is so shoddy, and I keep finding explanations that are either riddled with arcana or dreadfully inaccurate. Come on, you scientists! Solving world hunger can wait! Get this sorted out! Gah!

Bombs are used by those who are non-confrontational, guns aren't.

"Bombs take a lot more doing than buying guns." Not so, Bombs are probably the easiest things
in the world to make.Purchasing a gun requires a background check. Purchasing the materials to
make a bomb does not need any background check, you can get everything you need at Wal-Mart
or Home Depot.

I think your fitting him to AS rather AS to him. There are lot of co-morbid traits in other problems.

I have to admit I may be swayed toward schizophrenia instead of sociopath. I didn't really take in the video first time. I think people are right there is less of a direct audience, it is not clear who he is referring to his links to his inspirations are spurious illogical. There is no real cause he is attributing it to.

I’m not happy about it being attached to schizophrenia because not all schizophrenics are paranoid and it would be just as much a stigma to them as it would be to AS.

Childhood Schizophrenia is often misdiagnosed as AS.

I'm a new member, and I have to say that I'm struck by a couple of things in this thread. Some people here seem to really hate NT's and to be very concerned about them wreaking revenge on Aspies. Of course, this may be the result of bullying, and I have no experience of that. (I came from a family of 8 slightly wild Irish-American kids, and nobody who valued his/her life would pick on one of us.) Maybe the guys have it worse than the gals, as the bullying perhaps was physical. But I don't think we should judge everyone else by the actions of a few idiots. Believe me, MOST of the NT's aren't thinking about us at all; they have lots of other things on their minds.

Just an observation!

Yes, this is EXACTLY what I've been saying from the very beginning of when this was brought up!



My husband said the same thing. He's looking for "relevent" reasons that he committed the crime in the videos. It's simply not there because his thinking is so distorted. The reasons he describes are relevent to him and only him



It's sad anytime that the actions of one person can be used as a reason to discriminate against any mental illness/disorder (and I use that term loosely since many people here, including myself, don't consider ASD's to be either). So it's unfortunate that any group - Asians, Koreans, schizophrenics, amateur Stephen King wannabe's - will have to be stigmatized because of this.

According to the DSM-IV, there can be no dual diagnosis of autism and schizophrenia, which is rubbish. Having autism or Asperger’s does not render you miraculously immune to developing schizophrenia, in fact there can be overlap. Look at John F. Nash, he was socially isolated and had poor social skills well before he developed paranoid schizophrenia, which he eventually recovered from and is now an Aspie.

I saw Nash speaking on TV recently, he said that his previous work in economics is flawed, because he did not realise that humans are emotional creatures. He had an autistic point of view.

I think Cho had both PDD and schizophrenia, a rare combination. This is the last time I’m talking about this.

Here is a paper about PDD and co-morbid maladies, 28 percent of children with PDD (a diagnostic category that is hypothesised to be a continuum or spectrum of autistic disorders) met criteria for childhood-onset schizophrenia.

Link: Paper about PDDs and schizophrenia