Do you feel like an outsider, even here at Wrong Planet?

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If you can't get an official diagnosis then what? Are you saying they shouldn't be here?

More or less.

I doubt it's something having an official diagnosis would change. The problem is, I have bouts of self-consciousness where I over-analyze things I've said -- which only seems to occur after the fact. That's when I realize that, A) I've worded something so poorly that I could seem like a jerk, or, B) I've shared too much about myself and/or worded such sharing poorly and could seem like a jerk. People confuse me, anyhow, so I may not seem like a jerk at all. It's hard to say. What I can say is that I'm not a jerk, so I'm finding myself more and more inclined towards lurking rather than interacting and risking annoying anyone.

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Sure I do. The minute the liberals find out I'm a conservative, they attack me like a pack of sharks smelling blood. It reminds me of the movie Zulu. I have to beat 'em all off at once.

Longshanks

I come here because I find the forum, and the people here, interesting and also because I don't feel like quite so much of an oddball as I do in other places. The topics of conversation and the style of conversation are much more interesting to read than on most forums where there is a lot of banter going back and forth between people about nothing much of any real importance of all.

Do I have an ASD, I don't know, which is why I selected 'Not sure if I have it or not' on my profile. I am not comfortable selecting 'Aspergers undiagnosed' as I don't have a diagnosis, have never been officially tested and am a bit pedantic in regards to accuracy. I don't like saying I have something if I am not sure I have it.

As for do we think it's interesting to be an aspie, not as such, but I have several online friends who have aspergers and I do find them fun and fascinating to talk to. They make more sense than most people I meet...and they are as quirky as me in some ways. So what can I say, I like them.

Does that mean I desire to have aspergers? No, but I would like to know what has caused my life long social issues etc. It's a curiosity thing.

Even if I do turn out to be a really weird NT, I would still like coming here though.

When I go somewhere, I usually go by myself.
If it is somewhere - where there is some sort of social interaction with other people who knows me, I might end up in a fight because some people gets mad at me when I tell them how stupid they are or what they were doing wrong.

I owned a dirt track stock car racing team once for about 2 years.
I spent $18,000.00 in 18 nights of racing, because people were always running into my car, tearing it up.
Sometimes they would even run into it and wreck it after the race was over and I was going to the scales.

The track owners and the police wouldn't do anything about it, so I stopped racing and going to the races.

Some people didn't like going to the races with me because they were afraid that they were going to get beat up also.

One night at a bar, one of the idiots that was causing trouble at the tracks was there and he was high on cocaine.
He did about $1800 in damages to my Avalanche that night and the police did nothing to him - not even in court.
So I reported him about 6 months later, when he had made a major dope deal and he was caught with drugs in his car and dealing and they sent him to jail for a couple of years and now no one messes with me because they know if they do that I will get something on them and they will be more sorry then if they had just walked away.

I rest my case: liberal hypocracy at it's best!

we aren't all quite as privileged as you with your gold-plated private health insurance coverage that covers the dear cost of such "official" tests.

we all have more in common than you imagine. to each their own.

edited for being an ass.

carry on....

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I have no idea if I belong or not. I just signed up so I can shoot my mouth off. Or in this case fire away text from my keyboard.

Edit: Just take a look at my Joined Date and number of posts I've made. I LOVE IT HERE!

Overall, without trying to step on anyone's toes, an official diagnosis, in my view, is a good thing. And please read this carefully before going up like a rocket ship. When my wife and I were trying to figure out what in tarnation was the matter with me, she had hypothesized that it was AS once we had been married about 6 months. She was trained in early childhood and special ed so she pretty much had the training to spot it. But at first she discounted it because of my success in the military, the fact that she and I had a great relationship, and that I had retained some close friendships. A little over 8 years of marriage pass and I wind up having some issues with the in-laws. Then she asked me if I thought I had it. I had no idea. Never even heard of AS. I tried one of these on line tests and scored positive. I then followed up with a neuropsychiatrist and wound up scoring a higher aspie score than I did the online test.

Having said all of that, if I had tested negative on the online test, I might have ignored the idea. The online test gave me the gumption to have a professional check me out. I'm glad it worked out that way. So, online tests do have their uses - but they don't tell you everything because there are other conditions that mimmick AS, such as OCD, that can be medicated and treated. AS is a different critter entirely because it's physical and there is no cure. So, advantage one to getting a diagnosis is knowing what you have so that you have some sure direction and a set of options for handling the situation.

Advantage 2 would be legal. Now, as I've said in a previous post, the various federal judicial circuits are torn on aspies - basically evenly split. Some opt that aspies are covered under the ADA. Others are the opposite. This is because the psych profesionals are split as to whether AS is in the spectrum of autism or not - and autism is covered under the ADA. But the pendulum is gradually swinging toward the autism spectrum. If you live in a circuit that favors AS, you may have some legal advantages including vocational rehab. These are things to check out.

It all depends on where you live and the services that are available along with the set of laws governing them.

In the same token, like any other forum, there are, in my opinion, a few self-proclaimed aspies out there who act far from it. And yes, they irritate me to no end. I simply take these people with about a molecule of a grain of salt and move on. The United States does not outlaw all forms stupidity. Reckless behavior causing other people harm is outlawed. Acting like a harmless fool isn't.

Longshanks

I am touched by your exception.

i have a lurker versus poster thread floating around here someplace.

I hear ya!
It's only taken 2 years, 24 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes & 12 seconds for me to respond but I hear ya!

And yes, you're (partially) right. People only care about themselves and what they want. Where you're wrong is, people who have money, prestige, IQ, kids etc. people don't love you for it. They actually want to take these things from you and kill you - or at least they did in the olden days when that sort of thing was allowed.

These days, all they can do is pretend to like you in case they cop some lucky spinoffs of the person's wealth, trips out on their cabin cruiser or get to drive their Ferrari but secretly despise them, get eaten up with jealousy and end up all bitter and twisted because they're not allowed to kill you anymore.

Even most religiously motivated people need a reward for being nice to other people. Can you imagine a religion that asks you to devote your entire life to doing nice things for other people but you won't get your reward in heaven or anywhere else, EVER. Your reward is seeing the other person happy. "That's It". Religion would take a sudden dive into extinction.

Face it! That's Life! People are self-centred. Even babies scream like it's their God given right to demand feeding, changing and whatever else the hell they scream for. And speaking of which, not too many people are jealous of other people's kids - not if they've got one of the screaming, pooping, eating, perking machines themselves - and as if that's not bad enough, they grow up spending all of your money on the way, hit their teens and then hate your guts until either you die, or they live to be old enough to realise they didn't really know everything and that you're not such a bad person.

Ahhh, that feels better.
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Want a kid?

I kind of feel like I belong here and I kind of don't. I also enjoy some NT online communities, so I don't think my belonging or lack of belonging is related to my neurology. I like posting here because I usually get quick and interesting replies. Most of the other forums I visit aren't as active.

Yes and yes. Even here I feel like an outcast.