Asperger's Syndrome is Scandinavian
sorry to blow your theory, but my grandma (I'm adopted, so no genetics involved here, ok?) was norwegian and was the heart of her lutheran church. She was the kind of lady whom everybody called 'grandma'.... so, there is at least one norwegian who was not at all socially akward. Her son, my step-father who adopted me, LOL, yeah, true, socially akward big time.
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Wow, that's a really nice profile pic.
Aspie is a form of shock, hard-wired into the brain and a permenent disfunction of the individual due to a huge moment of fear or many moments of fearsome episodes. The tendence to run, fight or go Aspie is genetically determined but of course culture plays a big role. What is culture but a societal mechanism of coping, based on genetically determined mental processes...culture is a product of genes.
If you're going to generalize like that show some proof. My response to threat always has been, and probably always will be, aggression. I've just learned to control it as I got older (usually). Furthermore, violent meltdowns are not an indication of shock, it's a fight reaction to perceived threat, even though most people will not understand many of the threats people with ASD perceive.
I don't even know why I'm posting here. This thread is over 4 years old and the premise is just F'in stupid to begin with. Who knows if the OP is alive let alone still looking at this forum.
Aspie is a form of shock, hard-wired into the brain and a permenent disfunction of the individual due to a huge moment of fear or many moments of fearsome episodes. The tendence to run, fight or go Aspie is genetically determined but of course culture plays a big role. What is culture but a societal mechanism of coping, based on genetically determined mental processes...culture is a product of genes.
If you're going to generalize like that show some proof. My response to threat always has been, and probably always will be, aggression. I've just learned to control it as I got older (usually). Furthermore, violent meltdowns are not an indication of shock, it's a fight reaction to perceived threat, even though most people will not understand many of the threats people with ASD perceive.
I don't even know why I'm posting here. This thread is over 4 years old and the premise is just F'in stupid to begin with. Who knows if the OP is alive let alone still looking at this forum.
Why indeed? I ask myself this sometimes. Maybe it's because I know if the truth isn't told it leaves a void for the evils to fill it in with brain eatting bacteria. Horrible that it is, there are people who want to cut our heads off so they can own our bodies without any possible contention.
Eat a raw plant based diet and do Yoga (do it little by little). It's the only thing that's stronger than their technology. Now I'll do as you suggest and let the topic go. I should be working.
Aspie is a form of shock, hard-wired into the brain and a permenent disfunction of the individual due to a huge moment of fear or many moments of fearsome episodes. The tendence to run, fight or go Aspie is genetically determined but of course culture plays a big role. What is culture but a societal mechanism of coping, based on genetically determined mental processes...culture is a product of genes.
If you're going to generalize like that show some proof. My response to threat always has been, and probably always will be, aggression. I've just learned to control it as I got older (usually). Furthermore, violent meltdowns are not an indication of shock, it's a fight reaction to perceived threat, even though most people will not understand many of the threats people with ASD perceive.
I don't even know why I'm posting here. This thread is over 4 years old and the premise is just F'in stupid to begin with. Who knows if the OP is alive let alone still looking at this forum.
Why indeed? I ask myself this sometimes. Maybe it's because I know if the truth isn't told it leaves a void for the evils to fill it in with brain eatting bacteria. Horrible that it is, there are people who want to cut our heads off so they can own our bodies without any possible contention.
Eat a raw plant based diet and do Yoga (do it little by little). It's the only thing that's stronger than their technology. Now I'll do as you suggest and let the topic go. I should be working.
I totally agree with you, you should be working.
Wow, that's a really nice profile pic.
thanks.... I'd like to take credit for it, but it's actually a Monet ... Claude Monet, Woman with a Parasol
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Wow, that's a really nice profile pic.
thanks.... I'd like to take credit for it, but it's actually a Monet ... Claude Monet, Woman with a Parasol
To me you do get credit for it. Your taste says something beautiful about you.
Why do I think so?
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While living in Wisconsin, I saw clear and indisputable Aspie elements so ubiquitous it was generalised as the culture.
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I think Aspie is a Scandi trait.
Or was it the culture you mistook for aspie traits? When you look for signs, you often find them. When I was first diagnosed and research it like crazy, I saw traits in everyone, but I have changed my mind about all but 1-2 of those I "diagnosed". Psychology students are warned when they start their education, they will find symptoms in theirselves in many diagnostic criterias.
You do think you know, atleast.
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AQ: 42/50 || SQ: 32/80 || IQ(RPM): 138 || IRI-empathytest(PT/EC/FS/PD): 10(-7)/16(-3)/19(+3)/19(+10) || Alexithymia: 148/185 || Aspie-quiz: AS 133/200, NT 56/200
Aspergers as well as other forms of autism were measured at the highest rates in South Korea, an Island far removed from Scandinavian Countries and the ethnic groups that live in those countries.
Thorough diagnosis, though, is what made the difference.
The disorder of Asperger's is definitely not a Scandinavian specific disorder, per this data.
However, Autistic traits were measured at close to 30% in the US and Sweden.
Autistic traits are not necessarily indicative of a disorder, instead they are part of what makes the broader autism phenotype seen in all countries, where it is measured.
All diagnoses of ASD's are based on behavioral assessment. Culture impacts social communication, as well as behaviors known as RRB's, associated with ASD's. So the autistic like traits one may come across, may be more pronounced depending on cultural influence.
If cultures could be anthropomorphized some would likely be more introverted than others. Those introverted like traits are attributed to Germans as well, per cultural stereotypes, but the actual disorder of Aspergers is not measured there any higher than it is in South Korea. South Korea leads the world in technology, and solitary pursuits of technology, so the culture there likely influences behavior associated with autistic like traits as well.
There have been many analyses in the media that suggest that culture in the US is becoming "Autistic" as well, per many of the same factors at play in South Korea.
There's another disorder caused by toxic shock. Toxins causing cellular death. Could it be that the technologically active cpountry in the world has lots of toxins going into peoples bloodstream?
While I can't offer up such indisputable proof as a l.A.times article, I do know Asperger's/Autism ect is a Scandinavian disorder. How do I know that? It's explained in my previous posts.
What I don't understand is, what is the value of the scientific community lying about it? Doesn't really seem all that big a deal to me. It reminds me of how vehimentlly the scientific community contended the theory that caucasions had Neandertal blood in them. They knew before the DNA testing it was the case but they lied. Why? In fact they would still be pointing a gun at the few scientists that claimed Neandertal heritage had not the DNA tests now made the issue impossible to deny.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/09/autism-study-south-korea_n_859231.html
The South Korean, research was done by a team of scientists whose work was peer reviewed and published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, not the LA times. ASD's exists in Korea per the photo of some of those individuals in South Korea diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders above. The kids do not likely have Scandinavian ancestry that can be traced. Autism Spectrum Disorders exist among all ethnic groups, whom have been studied world wide.
Researchers in Scandinavia a month ago, released a study into the epidemiology of autism spectrum disorders, including Aspergers, and came up with close to the same percentages found in other western developed countries that have prevalence statistics for the disorder.
http://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2012/webprogram/Paper11683.html
.56 of the population is close to half of one percent of the population diagnosed with ASD's and only a portion of that half of one percent diagnosed with aspergers syndrome.
What you may be referring to is Autistic like traits that move far out into the population as part of the broader autism phenotype, studied as existing in close to 30% of the Swedish population as well as the US population studied.
You aren't likely observing many individuals with an actual ASD diagnosis, you are likely observing the population of individuals across the US and other countries per example of Sweden, that most everyone observes with Autistic like traits, whether or not they identify them as such.
The current data as it exists, clearly refutes any suggestion that Aspergers is a disorder specific to individuals in Scandinavia.
And culture is not a genetically programmed variable; the only inherent characteristic of humans associated with culture is the inherent ability for verbal language. Even reading is an ability derived from the collective intelligence recorded through the cultural development of writing, through thousands of years of development of written languages among humans.
That said, culture has a huge influence on human behavior, as seen among the different cultures of the world. Most western developed countries have elements of culture that are similar, resulting in similar cultural behaviors, as well as many differences in culture and cultural behavior.
Introverted behavior per personality traits, is often described as and associated with some of the clinical features of Aspergers. Introverted traits and behavior, per some studies exist out into 50% of the population, varying among different countries, but per sitter and rover behavior, strongly determined by biology and observable from birth, it is consistently measured not only in human beings but throughout the animal kingdom among 15 to 20 percent of species studied.
Archaic Neanderthal DNA is suggested to exist in close to 6 billion individuals on the planet, per 1 to 4% percentages. It's not a trait limited to Caucasians, per the South Korean individuals shown above that are among those that share the archaic Neanderthal DNA across the globe except among a relatively few in Sub-Saharan countries in Africa.
Autism though, exists everywhere where diagnosis is accessible, measured among children of Sub-Saharan indigenous African refugees, living in Scandinavian countries, at higher rates than the native Scandinavians in Sweden.
The prenatal stress of migration is suggested to play a part in the higher rates. However prenatal stress exists where ever human beings live, whether it is Sweden or Africa.
http://sfari.org/news-and-opinion/news/2012/swedish-study-dissects-autism-risk-in-immigrants
ASD's exists in Korea per the photo of some of those individuals in South Korea diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders above.
There's no F'in way those kids are Korean
The photo comes from an Associated Press File from an Associated Press Release on the South Korean Autism Study, linked below the picture.
It's highly unlikely that the Associated press has dressed some girls up in shirts that say different and proud of it, from another country to illustrate the story on South Korean Autism. It's very possible some of the girls are of mixed Asian heritage, but Asian heritage indigenous to South Korea, is not a requirement to live in South Korea. There is still a military presence of about 18,000 from the US in that country. There is the potential that some of the girls are of mixed African American or Hispanic Heritage.
Not likely any of the four can trace their roots back to Scandinavia, but not impossible either, per that US military presence in South Korea.
ASD's exists in Korea per the photo of some of those individuals in South Korea diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders above.
There's no F'in way those kids are Korean
The photo comes from an Associated Press File from an Associated Press Release on the South Korean Autism Study, linked below the picture.
It's highly unlikely that the Associated press has dressed some girls up in shirts that say different and proud of it, from another country to illustrate the story on South Korean Autism. It's very possible some of the girls are of mixed Asian heritage, but Asian heritage indigenous to South Korea, is not a requirement to live in South Korea. There is still a military presence of about 18,000 from the US in that country. There is the potential that some of the girls are of mixed African American or Hispanic Heritage.
Not likely any of the four can trace their roots back to Scandinavia, but not impossible either, per that US military presence in South Korea.
These kids are of Central American or western South American Native decent with possible small European traces. I was just thinking- If I were a journalist, and couldn't find a picture of some Korean kids with autism for my story, I'd be better off not using a picture than using one of some kids on the other side of the world from a completely different culture. Maybe it's just me, but a journalist who can't tell the difference between a South Korean and a South American seems funny. If she was just thinking nobody would notice it's even funnier.
ASD's exists in Korea per the photo of some of those individuals in South Korea diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders above.
They are from New Dehli, India. http://newshopper.sulekha.com/india-aut ... 744139.htm
ASD's exists in Korea per the photo of some of those individuals in South Korea diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorders above.
They are from New Dehli, India. http://newshopper.sulekha.com/india-aut ... 744139.htm
Well either way they're definitely not Korean . Those shirts made me think they are in the US.
maybe aspergers isn't scandinavian specifically, but Germanic? Scandinavian people are descended from Germanic tribes. Germanic tribes migrated to England and Russia and much in between too I think.
Which populations have the most AS?
I would guess:
1. Jews of European descent (most likely has Russian/German/Slavic ancestors)
2. Russians/Eurasians
3. Germans
4. Scandinavians
I also want to say that this would fit in with the Neanderthal theory since I think they were known to thrive more in northern colder climates.
How many full blooded Corsicans or Sicilians have AS?
How many Africans have AS? I know alot of places won't get tested or whatever, but why are Caucasians that much more nerdy?
The same technology type inventions that people speculate would require aspie-like obsessiveness. Why didn't those happen in Africa if AS is spread evenly?
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