The Pro-Cure Thread

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yes,am agree-just because are pro cure/pro choice of cure does not mean=curebie.
a curbie is a different thing.
am dont understand why antis in this thread and others say nasty things about pros,eg,pros do this,do that-judging all pros on the same level as the likes of john best and co.

as someone from the 'pro side' [who can also see the bad sides to it],am respect every user on this forum as the same worth/build,and respect all sides-anti or pro,choice is choice.
am dont dont hate antis,think they're different or do any of the nasty things used about pros here,the main point am have is of own experience [the same as everyone else on a forum] of having sv/ autism-why this affects own choice to do with possibility of cures,and why others should think of more than just the 'lighter' side when it comes to supporting or not supporting the idea of cures/better treatment.

am wish some from both sides of this choice would stop seeing the opposite as enemy,and realise its just about choice and a lot of it is about experience,not everyone from either side are nasty or extremist,and there is quite a large pro side here [including pro choice,wanting the cure themselves,or part cure]-am remember reading that Alex welcomes the pro side as long as follow the rules like everyone else,so it isnt fair when those who are innocent pro members are treated like do not contribute to the community or are bad to everyone else,or even get chased off the forum as some have had done.

... except maybe a little bit more.


An excellent post, as I see it, KOR.

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You were the one who said that there is no value in those traits. It only takes one genius to change a culture. People on the spectrum are far more likely to have genius ability. Why would you consider stopping evolution just so that we don't have to deal with mental retardation, schizophrenia, manic depression, etc?

Where ?


Stop evolution ?
No-one can do that, not even The Curebies.
We can nip the pathological end off the AS spectrum without impacting the rest of it, surely ?

You think? And when they have cut off AS, the next step will be to cut off the entire broader autism spectrum, wouldn't it? Because there is always somebody "standing out" as long as we have non-zero diversity. With the more obvious differences related to AS cut off, curebies will then see the new pathologies in the broader autism spectrum more clearly. Lets cut this off as well. We don't need inventive scientists, as everything worth knowing is already known, right? All we need is NT social competence!

When you talk about zygots it starts to sound like eugenics. Our brains are big because of mutations. With evolution you have to take the good with the bad.

I'm all for the wholistic approach to finding cures to help those who suffer from the symptoms of AS but I don't think it is ethical to play Frankenstein.

Or the voice of superior understanding, depending on whom is the judge.



Yes, it is true. The beliefs of curebies closely resemble those of the church. The new beliefs that AS is not primarily a disorder is the revolutionary claim that is quite compatible with Galileos and Copernicus superior understanding of astronomy. History tells us that old-fashoned beliefs like that are eventually replaced, and the people that once held them are viewed with contempt by future generations.



Perhaps because you never present anything substantial, and always push these fantastic cures that eventually will make 100% of the Aspies convert to neurotypicality?

So I have to share more of your viewpoint, even if I don't agree with it, to escape being likened to a Nazi?

No.

Yeah, of course.

It was a hypothetical question.

Nipping the pathological end off the AS spectrum isn't going to influence human evolution, because clinically ret*d Autistics don't pass on their genes.

You mean play God, don't you ?

Why would anyone want to perpetuate clinically retarding Autism ?
Why wouldn't a prospective parent opt to bring a non-retarded child into the world, given the choice of which of two zygotes to fertilise ?

How would it be possible to tell if the fetus would be a high functioning or low functioning autistic?

Have you seen the movie Gattaca?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gattaca

Have you read Frankenstein?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein

Interesting to see the referrence to frankenstein so it's obvious that you have read between the lines of Mary's analogy and seen the story behind the story. Few people recognize it.

Frankenstein is my favorite book.

A question I've wondered myself.
But since my original question was hypothetical, I'm not sure I need to consider the answer to this extension thereof.

Hypothetical questions need to be discussed before any answers can be found.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/